Brooks Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 i put a big block in a chap i had and couldn't pull up as far, it really cut down the range of the floyd (at least in that guitar).
Disturber Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Although my last Floyd Rose guitar, the Snakeskin SSII, was a tone monster and the best Floyd guitar I've ever played tonewise,I am done with Floyd equipped guitars. I highly doubt I will ever own another one. I don't miss them. In fact I'm really happy I got rid of my last one.Even if they sound huge, like my SSII, I have never encountered a Floyd guitar that does not have that special Floyd sound. In the end it started to anoy me.It's that "ping" you described. I can sooooo live without it.
sledhead44 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 [Titanium is NOT as affordable! They were having some special deal and if I recall correctly I think I got it for under $100. I see they are going for $159 now! For those of you not wanting to mess with a Floyd, I get it....they can be a real PIA sometimes. I just can't see myself ever NOT having at least one floyded guitar. Currently I have 5. Could be an influence thing. Growing up, heavy hair metal was my main influence. A guitar without a Floyd just did not look right to me for a very long time. A few of the players listed on FU are Warren DeMartini, CC Deville, George Lynch, Mick Mars, Scotti Hill, Dave Sabo....all main influences.
diablo175 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 i put a big block in a chap i had and couldn't pull up as far, it really cut down the range of the floyd (at least in that guitar).Brooks, that's true, with the greater size of the block, there's less room in the cavity for movement. It does depend on the guitar, as my Charvel Star has a big block in it and the range is pretty copious. My Cali's all have big blocks in them and I haven't noticed any restriction on the range of the pull ups. To be fair, I haven't pulled the bar up past one step on the Cali's.
Brooks Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 For those of you not wanting to mess with a Floyd, I get it....they can be a real PIA sometimes. Growing up, heavy hair metal was my main influence. yep; EVH's whammy abuse in general (yes i know he used a trad fender bridge on the 1st 2 albums), and brad gillis warbles on ozzy's "speak of the devil" in particular were a big early influence, along w/ vai & dime later on. i grew out of that for awhile and played hardtails from ~'90 to ~'09 (playing jazz/funk/classic rock most of this time), but as soon as i started playing heavy shit again i started flipping thru floyded guitars.
diablo175 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 [Titanium is NOT as affordable! They were having some special deal and if I recall correctly I think I got it for under $100. I see they are going for $159 now! For those of you not wanting to mess with a Floyd, I get it....they can be a real PIA sometimes. I just can't see myself ever NOT having at least one floyded guitar. Currently I have 5. Could be an influence thing. Growing up, heavy hair metal was my main influence. A guitar without a Floyd just did not look right to me for a very long time. A few of the players listed on FU are Warren DeMartini, CC Deville, George Lynch, Mick Mars, Scotti Hill, Dave Sabo....all main influences. Ditto. Except I can't see myself ever owning a hardtail- lol! And yeah, I was weened on both trem-ed (floyd-ed and traditional's) as well as hardtailed players but really gravitated to EVH, Vai, Satch, Stevens, Gillis, Dime etc. for their dynamic use of the bar. Funny thing is, out of the host of shredders that sledhead44 listed, not one of them would I have cited as particularly innovative or adventurous with the Floyd. Loved most of their playing to be sure but just wasn't wow-ed by their whammy bar use.
Rodan Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 i put a big block in a chap i had and couldn't pull up as far, it really cut down the range of the floyd (at least in that guitar).Brooks, that's true, with the greater size of the block, there's less room in the cavity for movement. It does depend on the guitar, as my Charvel Star has a big block in it and the range is pretty copious. My Cali's all have big blocks in them and I haven't noticed any restriction on the range of the pull ups. To be fair, I haven't pulled the bar up past one step on the Cali's.I was wondering about this. If I get into it with my Diablo's or my Chap' I'll have to take a few measurements, to make sure I've got leeway for at least a whole step sharp...
diablo175 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 i put a big block in a chap i had and couldn't pull up as far, it really cut down the range of the floyd (at least in that guitar).Brooks, that's true, with the greater size of the block, there's less room in the cavity for movement. It does depend on the guitar, as my Charvel Star has a big block in it and the range is pretty copious. My Cali's all have big blocks in them and I haven't noticed any restriction on the range of the pull ups. To be fair, I haven't pulled the bar up past one step on the Cali's.I was wondering about this. If I get into it with my Diablo's or my Chap' I'll have to take a few measurements, to make sure I've got leeway for at least a whole step sharp...Rodan, I've heard plenty of pro's doing the whole step bar pull up but I'd love to hear any recordings you have of this. I tend to be a bit tentative (perhaps out of fear for breaking a few strings) so I rarely do this far a pull up. Most of my pull ups tend to be on pinched or natural (open string) harmonics, about a half step. Or if a whole step, they're a very sudden rise and then return to pitch.
Victor (Fret Friend) Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Your not gonna break strings pulling up if you tune to D as I do...
diablo175 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Your not gonna break strings pulling up if you tune to D as I do...D # for me. It's a nice compromise...until the next singer comes along and his range limitations dictate otherwise...
Brooks Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 she-at, i do the whole step pull up all the time.
Bennyboy-UK Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 That's like nearly 1 and 3/4 of a semi tone or something
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