Phantom A5 wiring diagram

[krhnyc]

Hi there, 

Well, it's been years... and now (2 babies later) I'm ready to complete my Hamer Phantom A5 restoration project. Does anybody have a wiring diagram?

This guitar has a humbucker and single all in one ring, as well as a slanted single in the neck. It has 2 selector switches (1x3-way, 1x2-way, Gibson style toggles). The config looks identical to a Prototype 2. Just need to know how it's wired. 

Also, could use some parts. I have all but 2 parts from the original Hamer Lock Schallers. Need 2 thumbscrews. Also missing knobs. My 2 way toggle works, but does not have the black plastic tip like the original. Getting a repro backplate from Frets On The Net. 

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

[velorush]

For some reason I'm remembering it's the same as the Steve Stevens model: stevestevens.pdf (hamerfanclub.com)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I think the practical difference was the A5 incorporated the middle pickup in the triple ring.  

[Cboss]

Here is a picture of a control cavity of an 84 prototype 2, I'm redoing one of these and the wiring is the same as yours, basically the two-way controls whether you're selecting the humbucker or the single within the common pickup ring, then the three-way is either your choice on the two-way, your choice on the two-way plus the front, or the front

Output from the three-way goes to Lug one of the volume, log two of the volume goes first through lug two of the tone pot and then to the hot on the jack

I could draw up a wiring diagram if it would help

[Cboss]

3 minutes ago, velorush said:

For some reason I'm remembering it's the same as the Steve Stevens model: stevestevens.pdf (hamerfanclub.com)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I think the practical difference was the A5 incorporated the middle pickup in the triple ring.  

Yes this is it

[Cboss]

On mine I'm using two three ways which gives me full switching options, instead of just the humbucker or the single within the Triple Ring

[Cboss]

Post some pictures of the phantom!

[krhnyc]

Thanks for all the input! I will post in progress pics soon!

[velorush]

On 11/17/2023 at 11:49 AM, Cboss said:

Post some pictures of the phantom!

Kind of wish I had it back / but then again kind of don't.  The short scale didn't really allow the neck pickup to be very Stratty, but the 10.5kΩ Slammer was among the best sounding bridge pickups I've ever owned.  It was lightweight and was more comfortable than even a Strat, but the Sustainblock Trem was a disaster.  It was an early trem model, so the neck was thicker, which I would like more now than I did back then (0.88 at the first fret).  Had the case and the trem arm, too. 

[velorush]

With a friend. Notes say this was 2009.

The Special went to Canada.  It was fantastic, but the tiny neck wouldn't work even back then.

[Dave Scepter]

17 minutes ago, velorush said:

Still have mine but missing 2 of the locking tuner screws... great guitar & I agree, killer bridge pickup👍

[cmatthes]

[RobB]

On 11/17/2023 at 8:38 AM, Cboss said:

Here is a picture of a control cavity of an 84 prototype 2, I'm redoing one of these and the wiring is the same as yours, basically the two-way controls whether you're selecting the humbucker or the single within the common pickup ring, then the three-way is either your choice on the two-way, your choice on the two-way plus the front, or the front.

This actually clears up something I had very wrong. I was told (or I probably misinterpreted) the two-way split the humbucker and the three-way selected h/b, h/b/s/n or neck. This makes more sense and passes the screwdriver tap-test. 

[Cboss]

I used two three ways in the Prototype I just finished and all of the switching options sound good, and all a little different.  I like the idea of having new high quality switches also

Same wiring as discussed above, but using a 3-way for the pickup ring  gives you all three options within the common pickup ring

Also if you look at that picture you will see the blacks are hot, and the whites are grounded, this is the way I wired mine and it sounded great

[Cboss]

Slammer humbuckers are three wire and therefore cannot be split, just phase changed

[Hbom]

A couple more cavity shots.

 

[Cboss]

I like that goldish color! What is that called, what year?

[Hbom]

18 hours ago, Cboss said:

I like that goldish color! What is that called, what year?

S/N 3 9267 is only info I have.

[velorush]

Just remembered I had a shot of the electronics.  Again, 1983 (3 7991).  Interesting, no shield in the cavity.