Philly10 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 There is a blonde T-51 with black pickgaurd for sell here locally what is a fair price for me to pay? I haven't seen it yet but when I do I will take some pictures. If you have sold one recently could you let me know market value of these.Thanks
cmatthes Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Depends - they seem to be going for @ $500 on the low side and $700/- on the high side. Condition, T-51F version (w/Fishman), rosewood v. maple board, original case, no mods, cool color seem to be the factors that drive up the value. And yes, some people are hung up on the weight
iownit4 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 I sold mine 2 months ago blonde with black pickguard in good condition some dings ... for 600.00 with case
Mike_C Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Blonde with black guard if clean no mods w/ case I'd say 700 to 750 ish.
teleman Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 I've purchased and sold T51's for $350 to $750 dependng upon condition of course. The $750 was a NOS that had never seen the inside of a store. The $350 I bought at a Daddy's Junky Music store in Manchester, NH. Once I took the stickers off of it, it was in great shape.
saxmanjack Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Well then I just paid top dollar for one that was in less than the "near mint" condition described by seller. Is it possible to get replacement set screws for the bridge? (1/16" hex slots are kinda stripped out on most all of them) Pretty sad when its not even safe to buy from a HFC'er...
Brewmaster Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Well then I just paid top dollar for one that was in less than the "near mint" condition described by seller. Is it possible to get replacement set screws for the bridge? (1/16" hex slots are kinda stripped out on most all of them) Pretty sad when its not even safe to buy from a HFC'er... This is a very rare occurance. I have done many deals here with no issues.
edgar_allan_poe Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Well then I just paid top dollar for one that was in less than the "near mint" condition described by seller. Is it possible to get replacement set screws for the bridge? (1/16" hex slots are kinda stripped out on most all of them) Pretty sad when its not even safe to buy from a HFC'er...That is a bummer, and very surprising
cmatthes Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Well then I just paid top dollar for one that was in less than the "near mint" condition described by seller. Is it possible to get replacement set screws for the bridge? (1/16" hex slots are kinda stripped out on most all of them) Pretty sad when its not even safe to buy from a HFC'er...I have NEVER had a raw deal with an HFC'er, and have done many over the last (almost) 10 years. No offense, but to me, this sounds like you may be making a huge deal out of quite possibly the smallest part of the deal. Out of curiousity, what was the condition of the rest of the guitar? Was it as described?Assuming that the rest of the instrument is in great shape and saying that the hex slots are "kinda stripped", thus making that your primary reason sounds moreto me like buyer's remorse than something "pretty sad". Have you contacted the seller or did you ask appropriate questions up front? Did you inspect the guitar immediately upon receipt and contact the seller about the problem? If something is in your possession for more than 48 hours or so, it is more difficult to make a legitimate case that the seller sent you something with a problem and that it wasn't something you may have done to it (not saying you did, just saying it is tougher to bring that up as a complaint when you've had the opportunity to inspect for that long). I've sold things that have been "near mint" (or better), and then had a seller contact me after the sale to try to chisel the price down after the fact. In the cases I can think (2 of them) they either found a similar guitar for sale for less than they paid (they paid more than the "going rate" or didn't do their homework before pulling the trigger) or they got into trouble with their spouse for buying something without checking first. If the seller is willing to work with you to help cover $1 to 3.00's worth of parts, you're probably still getting a good deal and you should work it out amiably before condemning the safety of dealing with the community.If the seller said something is "near mint" and there are any structural issues, significant cracks/dings/gouges, gunk, poorly-functioning or non-functioning electronics, materially changed-out parts, etc. - THEN you have a legit beef. Unfortunately, your recitation of the facts doesn't make that clear. If the seller blatantly misrepresented the guitar, that's one thing, but if the seller was fair and you got an otherwise near-mint guitar, I'd think that is not a big deal. Many people wouldn't even notice the hex nuts on a Fender-style bridge, much less know if they'd been "kinda stripped".Just my opinion...hopefully it works out and you have a nice guitar in the end.
saxmanjack Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Yeah, there's usually a "like-mindedness" here when it comes to definitions of descriptive terms for condition. But the guitar is very resonant and plays well, although it seems to favor the lower frequencies(higher notes just don't seem to sing and sustain as the lower), but maybe this is just an inherent characteristic of these and a reason why people change pickups, bridges, etc...
gw_bluesman Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Hello,I am in the Lehigh Valley .. if you do not buy the T-51 (assuming it is good) I would appreciate it if you would pass the info on to me. EMail is best !!Good Luck,Glenn Wbluesguitar@rcn.com
Philly10 Posted October 11, 2006 Author Posted October 11, 2006 Sure. The deal is through a friend. Not sure if he is really looking to let it get that far away from him. Ill get more info soon.
saxmanjack Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 cmatthes, your post slipped in before mine:I was willing to pay more to get a truly "near mint" T-51; I was confident that I could always resell it if it didn't quite suit me. The only "buyer's remorse" I feel is that I did not get what I paid for. I would not have represented this guitar as being "near mint", and it has more overall wear than the seller described. I would not have claimed "little to no fretwear" when depressions are visible on all the lower frets.I would not have verified that the guitar has "no mods, damage, or repairs" when the neck pickup treble-side adjustment screw is inoperable and the hex slots are stripped out on most all the bridge adjustment screws, making setup very difficult. I don't know how to verify that these are the original pickups, but they seem a little too microphonic in any case.Seller agreed to refund $30 back to me for repairs. This will go toward the cost of a quality replacement bridge.
cmatthes Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Sounds to me like the seller offered a fair solution by refunding you some money. I've seen transactions on eBay and other gear-related boards where the seller tells the buyer to pound sand or else never replies, so this seems to be headed in the right direction.Also, with well over 25 years of buying, selling and trading guitars, I have YET to see too many people agree on the condition of a guitar. One guy's "Near Mint" is another's "Very Good" - it is all extremely subjective. I never take things at their stated condition, although it is a good starting point. Ask the questions up front, and always assume that things will be worse than described, depending on whether your standards are too high. There is a perceptible difference between "near mint" and "near mint when talking about a 10-15 year old instrument". Many dealers and sellers grade on the latter standard, so again, clarify that up front.Hope things are more to your liking with the new bridge on there!
saxmanjack Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Truth is, I'm sick of buying/selling guitars, and will probably just mod the hell out of this thing anyway. Does anyone know if aftermarket tele necks would fit? I'd like to experiment with a 24 3/4" scale neck with a little fatter profile, and what's the best jazzy humbucking tele neck pickup?
pesocaster Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Truth is, I'm sick of buying/selling guitars, and will probably just mod the hell out of this thing anyway. Does anyone know if aftermarket tele necks would fit? I'd like to experiment with a 24 3/4" scale neck with a little fatter profile, and what's the best jazzy humbucking tele neck pickup?If you decide to sell the neck PLEASE contact me... pesocaster at hotmail dot com I'm more than interested... For the neck, Warmoth has conversion necks it may need some adjustment but I'm not sure.... and for the Neck humbucker.... for jazzy.... go for a Johnny Smith...
mudshark Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 I've purchased and sold T51's for $350 to $750 dependng upon condition of course. The $750 was a NOS that had never seen the inside of a store. The $350 I bought at a Daddy's Junky Music store in Manchester, NH. Once I took the stickers off of it, it was in great shape. That's funny..............I bought a T-51 via the mail from Daddy's Junky Music for $370, seems like maybe I paid too much! .................described color as "brown" ............I was relieved to open the case to a very clean butterscotch T-51 .
serial Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 You paid extra because THEY took the stickers off.Daddy's always had some great oddball deals and although I heard it could be a crap shoot with mail order, I got some great scores there w/o any bad apples.
Bob P Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 I paid $750 for my T51 a few years ago (and I knew that I paid more than market value at the time) and it was worth every penny. I wouldn't sell it for twice what I paid.I have to ask why someone would want to swap out a neck on a T51. Yes they are a 1 piece Fender design and prone to twists/warps moreso than the stressed neck system....but why swap it?Is there something wrong with the neck in question? The flatter fingerboard radius seemed weird to me at first (I was used to vintage Teles) but I got used to it and now I like the fact that all of my Hamers feel similar due to the 14.5" fingerboard radius.
Nashzonasota Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Hey gang, I'm new here...just joined up tonight. (Was on here years ago but forgot my name!)Love myTt-51 and just wanted to rave about it ...Black, maple neck, pearly guard and rings for days.I did see the blonde/blackguard go on eBay for about 600. I wish I'd had the clams to grab it.How many colors were offered on the T?
Guest Buck Dharma Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Just out of curiosity is this Bruce's guitar? He worked on my amp and was telling me he was going to sell it. He is in Chestnut Hill.
rac53 Posted October 21, 2006 Posted October 21, 2006 Hey gang, I'm new here...just joined up tonight. (Was on here years ago but forgot my name!)Love myTt-51 and just wanted to rave about it ...Black, maple neck, pearly guard and rings for days.I did see the blonde/blackguard go on eBay for about 600. I wish I'd had the clams to grab it.How many colors were offered on the T?I personally has blk/maple/pearloid.... SeaFoam/white/rosewood... MaryKaye white/Tort/rosewood... Butterscotch/blk/maple(emg's).... butterscotch/black/rosewood.... orange/black/maple..... ...al least this many colors...T51's are simply superb!!
Stokesdead Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 now I like the fact that all of my Hamers feel similar due to the 14.5" fingerboard radius.This is the thing that makes me very interested in these guitars. Are they 25.5" radius. I assume so.~Stokesdead
Moose Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 now I like the fact that all of my Hamers feel similar due to the 14.5" fingerboard radius.This is the thing that makes me very interested in these guitars. Are they 25.5" radius. I assume so.~Stokesdead25.5" RADIUS? Do you mean that, or are yo talking scale length?That kind of radius is flatter than the back of an acoustic guitar. At that point, you might as well just make the fingerboard flat and square it off to the shoulders.
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