Robin Guitars(Medley)?????

[kizanski]

Get a Hill.

Greg, is that because Robin won`t do the 24.75 scale? Jack.

Their bolt-ons are 25.5".

Their set necks are 24.75".

That's pretty much that.

[black magic]

Now, see, Set Neck I can do :-) But will they do a set neck with just 1 humbucker and no cap? Jack.

[BCR Greg]

Why not spend the money on lessons so that you will be more competent and have an easier time playing ANY guitar? Lessons are the best investment a player can make.

[ZR]

I thought it was a Robin Meedley (meedley, meedley!). ; )

That green one is NICE!! I've also heard good things about Hill as well.

Why not get an older Chap short scale guitar? I guess there aren't many with only one pickup but you don't have to play that neck pickup even if it's there. Just a thought.

[kizanski]

Why not get an older Chap short scale guitar? I guess there aren't many with only one pickup but you don't have to play that neck pickup even if it's there. Just a thought.

Isn't that where we started with Jack about 5 or 6 years ago?

Maybe we can get Hamer to make him a custom order....never mind...

[atquinn]

I never sold my CS Soloist, didn`t have the heart and I have gotten use to the 25.5 scale more and more, but I do prefer the 24.75 scale.

Sorry, didn't mean to spread any untruths. I saw the one Mattsmusic is advertising on the JCF and it looked just like yours, so I jumped to conclusions...

-Austin

[SirDouglas]

Robin makes some really nice guitars... and decent prices also..

This is mine

smooth as my wifes ass... probably smoother....(dont tell her i said that)

Randy

[black magic]

Why not spend the money on lessons so that you will be more competent and have an easier time playing ANY guitar? Lessons are the best investment a player can make.

Greg, some times I don`t know how to take you, but you are right about lessons, I should take some. I am probably not going to get a Robin, too much of a hassle. Jack.

[ZR]

>>>>>

"I am probably not going to get a Robin, too much of a hassle. Jack."

>>>>>>>>

Too much of a hassle from Robin or from us? Just kidding! ; )

I think ol' Greggy means well. Most of us have found that holding your ankles is the prefered way to take Greg! ; )

[black magic]

Well, I grab my ankles for no one. Especially for someone that calls me Incompetent, that is just out of bounds. You would think instead of saying shit like that he would try to get my business. That won`t happen now. Jack.

[BCR Greg]

I'm just saying that ANYONE benefits from lessons, and the differences between guitars become less of a struggle.

You could take what I say any way you want, but that's how I meant it.

As to grabbing your ankles, you are not my type.

[SirDouglas]

Well, I grab my ankles for no one. Especially for someone that calls me Incompetent, that is just out of bounds. You would think instead of saying shit like that he would try to get my business. That won`t happen now. Jack.

the writen word is usually taken out of context and nearly always misinterpreted... therefore people get easily offended when none was meant in the first place.

Randy

[black magic]

OK Greg, I am glad you clarified that. Yes, sometimes I have taken things out of context, this is true, but I am a black and white kinda guy, so sometimes I read things literally :-) You know, I took lessons in the late 70`s/early 80`s, but quit early on and my teacher wasn`t very good. I would nead to find a very good teacher and the time to learn!! Can you believe back then, lessons thru a guitar shop none the less was only $7 a half hour. How much are lessons now? Jack.

[Scottcrud]

Jack, don't you know any smokin' guitar players around? Get lessons from them. Robins say they're custom, but only if it's something they want to do.

[BCR Greg]

Jack, don't you know any smokin' guitar players around? Get lessons from them. Robins say they're custom, but only if it's something they want to do.

Making ONE guitar that is outside of your typical fare when you are back ordered a ton COSTS money. Any company will say that. They make LOTS of custom guitars. A small builder like Hill can take that order, but asking a company that offers as many models as Robin to make something that is outside of their extensive model line isn't going to happen.

I have done more custom Robins than anyone else for several years, and they have done a great job. I just don't ask them to make Jacksons, Hamers, Gibsons, Fenders......... I ask them to make Robins.

[SteveB]

hey Jack, wouldn't an all Mahog Carvin DC-125C pretty much be what you are looking for?

[Scottcrud]

Making ONE guitar that is outside of your typical fare when you are back ordered a ton COSTS money. Any company will say that. They make LOTS of custom guitars. A small builder like Hill can take that order, but asking a company that offers as many models as Robin to make something that is outside of their extensive model line isn't going to happen.

I have done more custom Robins than anyone else for several years, and they have done a great job. I just don't ask them to make Jacksons, Hamers, Gibsons, Fenders......... I ask them to make Robins.

Greg, I used to be endorsed by them , as well as the other guitar player when we were in deadhorse, also, another buddy of mine was endorsed and wanted a specific medley or tedley, he asked for some personalized fingerboard inlays and a custom paint job, like his bands album cover, they wouldn't do the inlays but did the album cover. Me and the other deadhorse guitar player never asked for anything custom, we were both happy with our Raiders. I mean, I custom ordered mine and got what I wanted.

I was given the choice of headstock, color, fretboard wood, pickup configuration, bridge, and pickups...

I guess you really need to be happy with the guitars they offer which I was/am.

I have a buddy with a Hill V and it's super sick, I think that might be the best option for Jack.

Another company is Jagneaux out of Beaumont Texas, He'll build you ANYTHING you want for a pretty good price. http://www.jagneauxguitars.com/

[atquinn]

hey Jack, wouldn't an all Mahog Carvin DC-125C pretty much be what you are looking for?

Didn't Jack already have an all-mahogany DC125? (Uh Oh, here we go again... )

-Austin

[black magic]

First off, I appreciate all of you fellas recomendations :-) 2nd, you know what, I did have a DC125C in all mahogany, but it was 2nd hand, and didn`t have all fo the features I wanted, so I sold it. I am very picky when owning guitars and I have sold tons of them becasue something wasn`t right. My Jackson is about perfect, except for the scale length, but I have learned to like it, with a heavier fretting hand, but I do not like to fight a guitar, I like to play them. With the 24.75 scale and 9-42 strings, I just love the feel of them. Hell, I even like 8-38`s on them!! I can understand if Robin won`t do it, it`s cool, I was just curious. Hill is 2 1/2 hours from me and I can actually sit down with him and he will sketch out my thoughts and he said I can bring as many guitars with me as I want and he can take measurements, etc :-) Hell, the guy himself even owns an old Chap Custom short scale!! I will probably go with Hill and be done witn it. It will be very exciting to sit down with the builder himself and design a guitar!! Too bad FMIC has gotten really greedy on their prices, they lost a sale to me and to alot of fellas I know that won`t pay their extreme price increases on Custom Jackson and Charvels. I think I may do a custom short scale Star like and old school Charvel or something=ROCK!! Jack.

[edgar_allan_poe]

Jack, Gregs comment is actually right on the money. I am taking lessons from a great guy who lives in Swissvale. He makes his living teaching guitar, and he is fantastic. He charges $20 a lesson which IMHO is very reasonable. He is a graduate of Duquesne music school and really knows his shit. Right now we are working on technique, and improvisation. I couldn't be happier and he has really taken my playing to new levels.

http://www.chadbecks.com/

Take this comment the way it is intended Jack. You know I am your friend.

The problem isn't the guitar. It is your technique. Until you solve the technique problem, there is really no way to tell what guitar best suits your playing. IMHO that is where your problem lies. Trust me bro, I had absolutely no idea how terrible I was before I started taking lessons. It is an eye opening and humbling experience, but worth every penny. I also know that you are bothered by CTS, this will help.

You have been to my house when it was packed with 20+ guitars. I now own a grand total of 2 electrics, and I couldn't be happier. Just my 2 cents.

[ZR]

That's a pretty good post. I find there's an inverse realtionship between my time playing and my time shopping for new guitars/gear; The less I play the more I want to shop. The more I play the desire to shop goes down. It feels good to be content with what you have. In fact, I'm selling 2 guitars and a bass soon because I simply don't need them.

[shredmeister]

The Jackson Custom shop has gone down hill in my opinion since Fender took them over. I have a spectacular Jackson Custom that is my #1 guitar but I hear more and more gripes about their quality control on their customs. In the past I would have said go with a custom short scale Jackson but not anymore.

My next custom (if I do decide to get one) will be a Suhr 24 fret (I am a super strat kind of guy which I gather you are Jack).

I have to agree with some of the guys here in that I have had tons of guitars (and sold most of them) - and played all of the high end customs and I keep going back to my one main guitar and the couple secondary others I have . I see people with large collections and wonder how they can play them all. I have spent the last 20 years looking for that one special guitar and I got lucky to finally find it after all this time. So I say keep looking for the one that feels and sounds the best to you.

I wish everyone luck on finding that one guitar. That one with that special tone and sustain and articulation. They only come along once maybe twice during a lifetime. Because cost, materials and brand do not matter that much. Two guitars built identically by the same manufacturer out of the same materials often sound very different. Then there are those guitars that have that something special. If luthiers could figure out what it is and bottle it they would rule the guitar world.

I have heard one spectacular - and I am talking spectacular Korean built Charvel one time that just rang like a bell. It had a home made scallop job and terrible paint job that a friend of mine did and looked like shit. But it had that something special.

Every guitar feels so different to me and although I can play any guitar with any set up, any strings and any pic - even the cheapest crap - I am sensitive to the feel and tone of a great guitar.

You will sound like you on any guitar. But you can play better and sound better on certain guitars once you find what you like. So I say keep searching if you don't like what you have.

I understand the bolt on issue. I prefer bolt ons because I can make them growl and get better tone than a neck through. I have found upper fret access usually better on a well built bolt on believe it or not.

If you have the opportunity to sit down wih a builder face to face I would not hesitate.

Everybody has personal preferences. Me - I like to fight with a guitar. I like to "pull" the tone out of it and see what it is capable of doing - squeeling, howling, growling etc.. But thats just my playing style. I try to get tone with my fingers not effects or a huge amount of gain. I try to create dynamics when I play.

To me a guitar does not play itself - you have to pull out the best in it to get the tone that you hear in a professional player.

Just one mans opinion.

[kizanski]

That's a pretty good post. I find there's an inverse realtionship between my time playing and my time shopping for new guitars/gear; The less I play the more I want to shop. The more I play the desire to shop goes down. It feels good to be content with what you have. In fact, I'm selling 2 guitars and a bass soon because I simply don't need them.

You don't know how much I needed to read that today.

Well said, ZR.

[edgar_allan_poe]

You don't know how much I needed to read that today.

Well said, ZR.

Hey dickhead....thats what I FRIGGIN SAID!!!!

ROTFLMAO!!!

I never feel any love....

[BCR Greg]

Good pickups, cables, guitars, whatever are not used to their state of difference until the player can PLAY to the equipment's state of difference.

Lessons are invaluable.