bubs_42 Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 The pickup is a four conductor, grey lead, brass square leg, no stamp, got any guess's. I have probly a half dozen 70's dimarzio pups but they are all stamped. Edited to remove my long as story to get to the simple question.
tomteriffic Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 I bought one in either late '78 or early '79. Unfortunately the guitar it's in is on loan to somebody who's about 3,000 miles away. Otherwise I'd pop it out and have a look.
bubs_42 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 Dimarzio says 1974 the Dual Sound was introduced.
zenmindbeginner Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 Dimarzio stamped their pickups as far back as 1975... maybe even further. I found this out when trying to date one of their vintage PAFs that is in my collection. The Dual Sound is like the Super Distortion that has non adjustable poles right? The square feet are definitely pre-1978.1). You might have a Dual Sound pickup from before 1975. 2). The pickup could have also had a new backplate installed. (I learned about this the hard way! lol!) 3). Or it could have been a custom order... maybe they used some blank plates for the custom orders?What you really need to know is at what point did Larry start stamping his backplates "Dimarzio Pickups". Steve Blucher from Dimarzio told me that they stamped their plates as far back as 1975, maybe that was the first year that they had the logo stamps etched into the brass? If so, then you would have either a 1973 or a 1974 Dual Sound.
Armitage Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 You mean "the Dual Sound is like the Super Distortion that has 12 adjustable poles..."
murkat Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 you have an early one. are te bobbins hand made?not injected mold, but actual cut, stacked plastic bobbins?
bubs_42 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Posted December 18, 2009 you have an early one. are te bobbins hand made?not injected mold, but actual cut, stacked plastic bobbins?The Bobbin Tops are "Thin" but no thinner than my 77 and 79 pafs. Has square tooling holes almost off the pickup, one on each bobbin. Tooling marks on the Backplate where they are bent and slightly larger than the other Dimarzio that have. Lets see....Thats it I guess.Tape looks original, there is alittle of crap in the pups. Reads strong and I'm gettin ready to put it back in the guitar now. Hate to give it back to him, i'll tell him what he's got but i'm sure it makes no difference to him, it makes noise.
Armitage Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 I'm still trying to figure out why you think it's a DiMarzio Dual Sound? I'm not saying it can't be, just seems really unlikely. None of my old ones have those tooling marks on the back at the tab bends, those notches at the edges, or the odd tooling holes on the front (DiMarzio ware always neat round holes), and had braided shielding and sloted plated (not Philips or brass) screws holding the bobbins to the back plate... the first thing I'd do is measure it, it should be between 13 and 14k, then see if those Philip's screws holding the pickup to the surround are metric or imperial, they even look big in the photo. The rule of thumb in the '70s was Philip's mounting screws were metric and slotted were imperial (yes I know it can be either way). Here's a couple pictures of a '76 to show some of the differences. (not my picture)
Armitage Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Yeah, it looks like one of a million Asian copies to me...
gorch Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 Bubs, your's is either refurbished with a new backplate (and cable) or a no-name copy.
murkat Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 nope, larger MM adjust screws, thread lip on the leg bezels, press tooling marks at leg to bezel.circle/ square combo lead access holes way to the outside, almost to the edge of the bobbin.
bubs_42 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Posted December 22, 2009 Learn something new everyday. Thanks guys 4 the help.
bubs_42 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Posted December 22, 2009 You mean "the Dual Sound is like the Super Distortion that has 12 adjustable poles..." I'm still trying to figure out why you think it's a DiMarzio Dual Sound? I'm not saying it can't be, just seems really unlikely. None of my old ones have those tooling marks on the back at the tab bends, those notches at the edges, or the odd tooling holes on the front (DiMarzio ware always neat round holes), and had braided shielding and sloted plated (not Philips or brass) screws holding the bobbins to the back plate... the first thing I'd do is measure it, it should be between 13 and 14k, then see if those Philip's screws holding the pickup to the surround are metric or imperial, they even look big in the photo. The rule of thumb in the '70s was Philip's mounting screws were metric and slotted were imperial (yes I know it can be either way). Here's a couple pictures of a '76 to show some of the differences. (not my picture) Had a baby in my arms earlier. Yes, the Dual Sounds is Super D but with Four Conductors Correct? So the Allen Poles, and Brass Bottom and Four Conductor made me think Early Dimarzio Dual Sound. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Thats why I come here, somebody has to keep me in line.
murkat Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 no keeping in line at all, just here to help. The other week, winter guitar show, the old folks had there table set up, I always rummage throu there cool old school stuff... in a box, a pair of super d's in mint condition? nope, gotohs. old school gotohs are great, but, I was lookin forward to some super d's
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The pickup is a four conductor, grey lead, brass square leg, no stamp, got any guess's. I have probly a half dozen 70's dimarzio pups but they are all stamped.
Edited to remove my long as story to get to the simple question.
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