Building your own tripple coil?

[Drastion]

Was curious if anyone on here had tried making one. One with 3 single coils or do most people use a humbucker and single coil?

Looked all over to find something I could buy frame or otherwise. Lead me on a paper trail that lead to a lot of interesting guitars and even more interesting ideas. There does not seem to be any assemblies for sale anywhere with only Ibanez and Hamer taking a read l shot at the concept.

If anyone knows where to get one please let me know.

On a side note anyone have an idea how hard it would be to get a hold of a old ibanez 2663 triple coil? The one that looks like a multi slice toster from the top. Not sure how it sounds but it looks so cool and retro like the uber high end ultrasone headphones.

[murkat]

Mighty Mite, back in the 70's came up with the "motherbucker",

a triple single coil pickup that had leads from each coil,

all on one large bottom bezel.

Here's a mounting ring for one~ http://www.ebay.com/itm/LATE-70S-EARLY-80S-MIGHTY-MITE-MOTHERBUCKER-PICKUP-MOUNTING-RING-CHROME-/221438287064?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item338ec01cd8

and looks like this guy has made a few.... http://music-electronics-forum.com/t30000-2/#?1#?1#WebrootPlugIn#?1#?1#PhreshPhish#?1#?1#agtpwd

Hamer, used a humbucker with a single coil next to it.

the single coil, an actual bobbin from a humbucker

using a unique bezel to hold it all together.

Ask serial about the triplebucker toaster pup....

[cmatthes]

You aren't very likely to find the Ibanez pickup anywhere, and they aren't all that great, in reality.

[serial]

Considering that there were only about 2-300 of these guitars built, I'll bet you won't find one and if you do-prepare to dig deep. I was offered $500 for the pickup in mine, but told the guy I wouldn't break it up. He bought the whole guitar.

Pickup was very microphonic in mine. The guitar was amazing in every other way though, just couldn't gig it without the bad kind of feedback.

[murkat]

Beautiful first class Japanese goodness right there.

damm sexy

[serial]

They feel and play beautifully. Hard to find any old Icemans of late though.

[Tres Aardvarks]

Is this F3 (from 1990) an update on that? I was a bit surprised to even see it in their catalog since they didn't make any guitars that used it!

[dragan]

tom holmes used to make a triple , he put in his tom holmes customs (thc ) dbl cutaway guitars in the 70s

[Drastion]

Ibanez did have a tripple bucker at that adds time part of the roadstar pro series. The 540p-TC. Although it didn't last long in the catalogue.

Serial you sure have had some beautiful guitars in your collection. Yeah the rarity put that guitar on my bucket list. Really curious how the sliding system worked out on the 3rd version of the old 2s663.

Trying to figure out if three single coils mashed up in a triple bucker would work. Although I have not looked into single coils much so not sure where to start.

Do strat sets usually have a stronger coil in the bridge position? Would having it flat relative to the bridge alter the sound a lot?

[cmatthes]

Mighty Mite had a 3 coil on a single plate "Motherbucker" in the very early 80s.

[bubs_42]

I think Hamer did it best. The combination is so versitile and fun to use. I ditched the JB for a Phat Cat and soon I'll be getting ready to order a Phatcat with a modern lead instead of a braided lead for some more fun down the road.

[velorush]

1. Trying to figure out if three single coils mashed up in a triple bucker would work. Although I have not looked into single coils much so not sure where to start.

2. Do strat sets usually have a stronger coil in the bridge position? 3. Would having it flat relative to the bridge alter the sound a lot?

1. If you go this route, you'll want to order them without the flange (otherwise the coils will wind up being about 3mm or so apart). I think DiMarzio offers the non-flange flatwork for a nominal charge (Bubs knows).

2. It depends on the Strat set. Vintage Strat pickups were all the same wind (hand winding did result in variations, but this was an unintended consequence of the process and might result in, for example, the neck being stronger than the bridge). More modern sets will typically have a bridge pickup with more winds to compensate for the difference in string arc (and resulting loss in mechanical energy) as the string gets closer to the bridge.

3. If by "flat" you mean parallel to the bridge / perpendicular to the strings rather than canted, I think the consensus is it makes a bit of difference, but not like "oh, wow, what a complete change!" There are those who've experimented with the cant being backwards ala Hendrix. Most I've read about either didn't like the difference or didn't think it was worth the effort. The uncanted orientation would be somewhere between the two - I don't think it would make a noticeable difference in tone, but it would surely make fitting a guitar with three (flangeless, as noted) singles much easier. Alternately, as I've seen, you could cant all three - here's two:

[bubs_42]

1. Trying to figure out if three single coils mashed up in a triple bucker would work. Although I have not looked into single coils much so not sure where to start.

2. Do strat sets usually have a stronger coil in the bridge position? 3. Would having it flat relative to the bridge alter the sound a lot?

1. If you go this route, you'll want to order them without the flange (otherwise the coils will wind up being about 3mm or so apart). I think DiMarzio offers the non-flange flatwork for a nominal charge (Bubs knows).

2. It depends on the Strat set. Vintage Strat pickups were all the same wind (hand winding did result in variations, but this was an unintended consequence of the process and might result in, for example, the neck being stronger than the bridge). More modern sets will typically have a bridge pickup with more winds to compensate for the difference in string arc (and resulting loss in mechanical energy) as the string gets closer to the bridge.

3. If by "flat" you mean parallel to the bridge / perpendicular to the strings rather than canted, I think the consensus is it makes a bit of difference, but not like "oh, wow, what a complete change!" There are those who've experimented with the cant being backwards ala Hendrix. Most I've read about either didn't like the difference or didn't think it was worth the effort. The uncanted orientation would be somewhere between the two - I don't think it would make a noticeable difference in tone, but it would surely make fitting a guitar with three (flangeless, as noted) singles much easier. Alternately, as I've seen, you could cant all three - here's two:

Getting 2 coils to play nice together is a challenge let alone three. Dimarzio offers pickups without the flange, SD does as well as special order, Rio Grande. Have no idea what you want to accomplish other than maybe build a replacement pickup? You have to have some kinda game plan or its pointless.

I went with a Phatcat and a Hamer Singlecoil, so I was thinking P90 (Jr), Single (Tele) in one. I ended up with both sounds but both on with the tone knob down turned out to be a great lead tone. I would like to be able to put them in series. When both of them are on they are like a really cool HIFI set almost like having two guitars on or a twelve string. They didn't fight eachother just a great blend.

[Drastion]

Mainly why I wanted to use single coils is so I could change them around move them or do different wiring options. There is a what looks like a slammer series vintage S up for sale on the cheap for $130. That seemed like a good testbed to experiment with. Don't see any hamer models with a 25.5 scale in a hardtail format. Maybe a Monaco just not a fan of the body style and don't know if the import version would be any good.

Basically trying to make a hard tail A5 phantom with a longer scale for more options on where I put the pickups and wiring.

Not sure if taking two singles to make a humbucker like the humbucker from hell would work. Seems like it would be way too powerfull and would make volume balancing a problem. Wouldn't want to have to have a separate volume control just for humbucker mode.

I mean I do have a slammer series daytona that would probably be a better option with the pickguard and all. But I was trying to donate it to someone and got some stuff to go with it just for that. So it would be a waiste buying stuff I didn't need. Kind of disheartening when I can't give away a guitar.

[Bobby Marshall]

I could be wrong but I thought all phantom A5 and A7 models were typical hamer scale and not 25.5 scale. Phantoms with sustainblocks (non-trem original version like a sunburst model) also seem to stay hidden.

[bubs_42]

I could be wrong but I thought all phantom A5 and A7 models were typical hamer scale and not 25.5 scale. Phantoms with sustainblocks (non-trem original version like a sunburst model) also seem to stay hidden.

Correct and hope that you like skinny necks.

I didn't so I had a 90's Phantom Modded. PhatCat, SD HMR1 Singlecoil. Hamerhead Sustainblock, MOP Tuning Pegs and to top it off a Silver Sparkle Paint Job with a Sparkle Paisley Guard. I had a TELE and JR in my Head when the project started and it came out perfect. Phantom #2 OTW back to Nashville soon it will have a neck pickup this time around.