diablo175 Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Just curious but if anyone has installed or replaced the posts for a Floyd Rose- did you happen to notice whether the posts were snug in the bushing or was there a little wiggle room?
DBraz Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 More often than not a little wiggle room. I have literally just done a new for old changeover and there was a little bit of wiggle. While you are at it check the anchors themselves. Sometimes they wiggle in the body after years of abuse creating a bit of an oval and if they do you would be best advised to plug the anchor holes and get someone to re-drill for new anchors.The alternative can leave you with a floyd going slightly out of pitch after a bit of abuse mid solo.I have seen this a few times on mahogany bodied Floyd equipped guitars from the 80's and have just done this on an A5 Custom.Depends how fussy you are!
diablo175 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 More often than not a little wiggle room. I have literally just done a new for old changeover and there was a little bit of wiggle. While you are at it check the anchors themselves. Sometimes they wiggle in the body after years of abuse creating a bit of an oval and if they do you would be best advised to plug the anchor holes and get someone to re-drill for new anchors. The alternative can leave you with a floyd going slightly out of pitch after a bit of abuse mid solo. I have seen this a few times on mahogany bodied Floyd equipped guitars from the 80's and have just done this on an A5 Custom. Depends how fussy you are! This more or less confirms what I've always experienced. The posts do have a bit of wiggle, even when screwed down into the bushings. The good news is we're talking a 2012 Cali custom order so the cavities for the bushings are just fine. Still snug. And for the record, I am VERY f*cking fussy when it comes to my Floyds. That's what got me into this mess in the first place.
Studio Custom Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 A single wrap of plumbing tape will take up the slack usually.
diablo175 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 Interesting. I consulted the Mighty Floyd Rose Technical Oracle and they state there should be NO PLAY in the screws when seated in the bushing. This seems to suggest that the multitude of times that I've seen it happen, (first hand) indicates QC issues. Hmmm.
diablo175 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 Even curiouser- Floyd Oracle says that it is a problem with how the Floyd was installed. Really? You mean the guys at Hamer somehow managed during installation, to stretch out the hole in the bushing so that the stud didn't fit snugly?
Bobby Marshall Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Even curiouser- Floyd Oracle says that it is a problem with how the Floyd was installed. Really? You mean the guys at Hamer somehow managed during installation, to stretch out the hole in the bushing so that the stud didn't fit snugly? Who adjusted your floyd to perfection?
diablo175 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 Who adjusted your floyd to perfection? If I were totally honest, it's still far from perfection. But it's definitely better than it was. I was wailing away on it this morning and I noted that the bar will not dump all the way to the point of totally slack strings. It'll go down an octave or so but not to the point it should. Something is creating a significant amount of resistance to where I dare not push any more less I do some irreparable damage. In short- it's gig worthy but not where it could or should be. As far as who fixed it? A real talented guy in Glenside, PA (4 blocks from the Keswick Theater for those in the area) Jake at J Guitars.
carfish7 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I checked this just this past week on my '89 SS Custom. The posts were absolutely wiggle-free. Felt like the Ibanez posts that had that locking setscrew in the center - no movement at all.Sorry to hear your custom order has "issues". Geez, I suppose there is no such thing as "warranty" work on a recent Hamer, is there?!?!
cynic Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I checked this just this past week on my '89 SS Custom. The posts were absolutely wiggle-free. Felt like the Ibanez posts that had that locking setscrew in the center - no movement at all.Sorry to hear your custom order has "issues". Geez, I suppose there is no such thing as "warranty" work on a recent Hamer, is there?!?!Doubtful the warranty is an option given it's been in the hands of others, unless all are certified FMIC repair folk.
diablo175 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 I checked this just this past week on my '89 SS Custom. The posts were absolutely wiggle-free. Felt like the Ibanez posts that had that locking setscrew in the center - no movement at all.Sorry to hear your custom order has "issues". Geez, I suppose there is no such thing as "warranty" work on a recent Hamer, is there?!?!Doubtful the warranty is an option given it's been in the hands of others, unless all are certified FMIC repair folk.This /\
tobereeno Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I think all of mine wiggle ever so slightly. The plumbers tape idea is really good! Way back when I lived in SF I would go by Gary Brawer's shop to ask about all kinds of things. He's Joe Satriani's tech so I took his word for gospel. As far as post wiggle, I remember him saying that a little is fine; the post gets pressed firmly against the insert it's screwed into the second you start tensioning the strings. I haven't thought about it since. Well, until this thread came up and I remembered asking the exact same question. My concern was mostly about sustain, and eliminating any possible places where string energy could bleed off.how much can you pull up? I have had a zillion floyd-equipped Hamers and they all pull a major third and that's it. I've never owned a different brand of guitar that had a Floyd, but it does make me wonder how exactly people in the 80s were yanking it up a perfect 4th or 5th~
diablo175 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 I'll put this to bed right here and now. I did a bit of asking around and the official word for FR is a little bit of play or wiggle is both common and to be expected. More over, the pressure of the bridge via the springs n strings will keep those posts from wiggling regardless of whether you depressing the bar or what. Should've trusted my gut when the repair guy balked at the slight play- I've had enough experience playing around with Floyd parts to know that some wiggle is normal. I've had enough folks tell me they've experienced the same. a lil' wiggle ain't a bad thang. I've spent enough times in my younger daze, walking behind some sashaying sweeties at the mall to know this.
DBraz Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I checked this just this past week on my '89 SS Custom. The posts were absolutely wiggle-free. Felt like the Ibanez posts that had that locking setscrew in the center - no movement at all.Probably has a mid 80's Floyd. These were the best ones by far in my experience. They used much larger post anchors and posts with really coarse threads. Impossible to find post and more importantly anchor replacements for these sadly.
diablo175 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 I checked this just this past week on my '89 SS Custom. The posts were absolutely wiggle-free. Felt like the Ibanez posts that had that locking setscrew in the center - no movement at all.Probably has a mid 80's Floyd. These were the best ones by far in my experience. They used much larger post anchors and posts with really coarse threads. Impossible to find post and more importantly anchor replacements for these sadly.Maybe and maybe not. The FU Tone Floyd I acquired recently has studs and inserts that are significantly larger. I don't have an older Floyd set to compare with but I'd be willing to bet they're close.
Sugartune Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Nice guitar. Shame it has a Floyd on it though.
Studio Custom Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Sounds like it is time to send the guitar to one of the renowned luthiers to have it worked on. Of course they are always busy, so expect to wait.
diablo175 Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 Sounds like it is time to send the guitar to one of the renowned luthiers to have it worked on. Of course they are always busy, so expect to wait.Old news. All is resolved. See last several posts here.
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