PSA, DOUBLE CUT GIBBY LP, FLAME TOP, 2002, $2300, Bay Area CL, NA

[topekatj]

Some DANG nice maple, seems like someone liked the Hamer Special FM.

https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/oakland-2002-gibson-les-paul-standard/w3oaQTZPJqoMDd9RLcR6Pa

 

am I going blind or does this thing have 24 frets?

 

@The Shark

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:32 PM by topekatj

[bubs_42]

Most have 24 frets, chambered body’s. My local shop used to be a Gibson dealer when these were new. They did some limited run 22 frets guitars. 

[geoff_hartwell]

I am not a gibby expert, but I think there was an initial run in the 90s and then a reissue about 2002-2005or6.

Only bc a friend had an initial one and it came up when the second wave happened and I was already all in on Hamers.

It’s a great set of specs, but can’t touch Artists and Duotones for me. Not sure if both runs had belly cuts.

[murkat]

It's a good guitar, the 24 fret fretboard throws off the neck pickup out of the sweet spot, kinda nasley

[The Shark]

Mine's straight up Les Paul.  It's a 120th Anniversary made in 2014.  Traditional thickness to the body (earlier ones were a little thinner).  And no 24 frets.  

I paid a little less than that for mine and I think mine's worth more because of the Anniversary moniker.  

The guitar has grown on me.  I do miss separate volumes and tones, but it's not a deal breaker.

[The Shark]

7 minutes ago, murkat said:

It's a good guitar, the 24 fret fretboard throws off the neck pickup out of the sweet spot, kinda nasley

If it's a Les Paul scale with 24 frets, that's a no go for me.  I have the most killer PRS Santana I and I just can't get used to the scale.  It's for sale.

Edited yesterday at 01:15 AM by The Shark

[topekatj]

3 hours ago, murkat said:

It's a good guitar, the 24 fret fretboard throws off the neck pickup out of the sweet spot, kinda nasley

I recall reading that the 24 fret PRS guitars had a similar tonality.

[bubs_42]

12 hours ago, topekatj said:

I recall reading that the 24 fret PRS guitars had a similar tonality.

Maybe the older ones, and most of that was the pickups. All Gibson did was leave the Bucker where traditionally the P90 would be in an LP DC and fill in the gap with a couple extra frets. 

I did not care for what I felt was “Over Chambering” of the original run. The later ones felt better to me. 

Now that being said, I really liked, but could not afford at the time the Custom Shop Version with the different headstock. 

https://reverb.com/item/100315057-1998-gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-dc-pro-snakehead-butterscotch

I also thought if they would have put that headstock on the Modern Double Cut it would have look well MORE FUCKING MODERN. LOL I still like that design, I believe they just screwed the pooch on the launch. Let’s through out a great guitar with no artists behind it, and hope it sticks. 

And then we have this. Which, I personally love, but they only went like 85% of the way. The colors are usually just off, the tops are blah. Just give it the “HIstoric” treatment like it could have been the best guitar they built in 58-61. 

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-special-double-cut-cme-2413903?source=google&utm_campaign=gibson-cs&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22624313754&gbraid=0AAAAADRxQTiafNOGh1gr5JUBeOv_Nku4K&gclid=CjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZopWhabNQ1CD2VyjjqdCPDJcKV5WiJk8-TT5AWG7gnxgSt1fyNkqpyRoC-NYQAvD_BwE

Thanks guys, I needed to get that off my chest. I think it’s been eating at me for a while.  

 

[topekatj]

Ummmmm, no

[velorush]

4 hours ago, bubs_42 said:

Maybe the older ones, and most of that was the pickups. All Gibson did was leave the Bucker where traditionally the P90 would be in an LP DC and fill in the gap with a couple extra frets. 

I did not care for what I felt was “Over Chambering” of the original run. The later ones felt better to me. 

Now that being said, I really liked, but could not afford at the time the Custom Shop Version with the different headstock. 

https://reverb.com/item/100315057-1998-gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-dc-pro-snakehead-butterscotch

I also thought if they would have put that headstock on the Modern Double Cut it would have look well MORE FUCKING MODERN. LOL I still like that design, I believe they just screwed the pooch on the launch. Let’s through out a great guitar with no artists behind it, and hope it sticks. 

And then we have this. Which, I personally love, but they only went like 85% of the way. The colors are usually just off, the tops are blah. Just give it the “HIstoric” treatment like it could have been the best guitar they built in 58-61. 

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/gibson-custom-shop-les-paul-special-double-cut-cme-2413903?source=google&utm_campaign=gibson-cs&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22624313754&gbraid=0AAAAADRxQTiafNOGh1gr5JUBeOv_Nku4K&gclid=CjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZopWhabNQ1CD2VyjjqdCPDJcKV5WiJk8-TT5AWG7gnxgSt1fyNkqpyRoC-NYQAvD_BwE

Thanks guys, I needed to get that off my chest. I think it’s been eating at me for a while.  

 

Love that headstock design. Before now, I'd only ever seen it on the Pat Martino model.

[HoboMan]

On 8/21/2026 at 11:24 PM, topekatj said:

Some DANG nice maple, seems like someone liked the Hamer Special FM.

https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/oakland-2002-gibson-les-paul-standard/w3oaQTZPJqoMDd9RLcR6Pa

 

am I going blind or does this thing have 24 frets?

 

@The Shark

 

 

 

I've owned several of these over the years. They are great guitars and Gibson put amazing maple tops on all of them.

Here's the big issue I had, that cutaway is not comfortable for playing up high. It looks good in the pics but it puts you hand in an uncomfortable position and I used to get cramps in my arm while gigging.