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Garage door opener expert in the house???


tomteriffic

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My trusty Genie Pro 83 began acting erratically this afternoon. I tried several combinations of wireless remote, wall switch, etc. At first neither the remote nor the wall switch worked. Thinking it might be a relay or solenoid in there, I unplugged the unit. When I plugged it in, the door would open (or close) but just the once. This persisted for a couple of cycles. I found that a spare remote worked the thing just fine, but the wall switch wouldn't work.

Right about that time, the motor head let out all of its smoke. A quick unplug and a squirt of fire extinguisher, just to be on the safe side, ensued.

Now, I'd rather not have to replace the whole damn thing: track, screw, brackets, etc. if I can help it. That spells money and in my condition, I'm not sure I have enough elbow grease to do it, even with help. But it appears that the compatible motor head is no longer available (and I'm not sure what to do with it anyway).

Thinking that it had to be something rather large to let out as much smoke as it did, I popped the cover and there's a large motor starter capacitor in there. There seemed to be a fair amount of black schmutz on the contacts and a bit here and there around the edges of the contact end. I couldn't find an obvious leak point though. I pulled it and that part is still available.

It's a nuisance and, for the moment, a security issue until I can get a manual interior lock on the thing. So, what do I need to know? Am I SOL and just wasting my time with the capacitor? Is there any kind of generational compatibility between the current Genie motor heads and the existing screw/rail/etc?

Any and all input much appreciated. Time is a factor.

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Is "83" the model number, or the model year? If it's the model year, then I think you're better off getting an entirely new unit.

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No the 83 is the model number "Pro 83" to be more precise. I did, however check the date code and it's from February of '92. so it's 22 years old. Damn! Time flies! I guess there's never a good time for this kind of thing to happen but this certainly isn't one of them.

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They found ways to build them a lot cheaper nowadays. Genie (like Craftsman Tools) was one of the good ones. My Mom still has her original one from the early '70s. I installed a screw drive at my house in the mid-'90s that was a well-thought out, well-built unit.

Fast forward to last summer replacing the opener here (different house), and the new screw drive Genie was more of a screw job. The rail that holds the screw was so cheap and flimsy that I reinforced it with aluminum angle because it felt like it could buckle at any time. The motor struggled to lift the door (granted, it's a heavy-ass double wood door from the '70s) and kicked the overload breaker so many times I finally just gave up on it, and returned it.

I'm told the Menard's/Lowe's/Walmart/etc etc etc versions of door openers are a cheaper build quality then what you'd get from a professional installer. It might be total BS, but the 'Overhead Door' brand (who also makes Genie) I had installed by a pro is indeed a heavier-duty unit that doesn't seem to want to collapse at the thought of doing it's job.

I know that ^^ probably doesn't help you much, but it pays to shop around a little. A lot of that stuff just ain't what it used to be.

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The motor struggled to lift the door (granted, it's a heavy-ass double wood door from the '70s) and kicked the overload breaker so many times I finally just gave up on it, and returned it.

The doors probably weren't balanced properly via the springs. Once adjusted, the door should hang by itself halfway up. That way, the motor doesn't have to work as hard to pull up the door.

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I'm going to order the cap and put it in. If that doesn't get it, Then I'll see about a pro install. There's a very reputable company here (I've used them before for busted springs and was very happy). They sell Overhead Door. I'd rather not have to spend the bux right now though. Still, this little 1/3 HP Genie has been a champ. The door is well balanced and it doesn't take much to get it open, even manually.

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A slight return...

I ordered the cap and just now put it in. After I got everything back in sync voila, we had a functioning opener. $18 instead of $500. It turns out the wall switch was wonky too. Touching the two wires made the thing cycle as normal and that button is about a $4 part, available most anywhere. Most Esteemed Redhead is going after it right now.

And there was great rejoicing.

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Huzzah's all 'round! :)

Gonna file that one away for future reference.

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Good work!

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Awesome! I love it when a simple fix saves some money.

My garage door has been jamming on the downward cycle last winter and this winter. Summer it was fine. Lots of pondering and looking led to the conclusion it was jamming up against the frame.

I sprayed some WD40 (is there nothing it can't do?) along the frame where the door was rubbing it and voila, down it went.

I'm sure I'll have to up my elixir to real oil or grease soon enough, but it's good when the thinker gives you the answer once in a while. Saved a house call.

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