Cboss Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 For 1980 what would be the difference between a Sunburst and a Special? Is it just binding on the sunburst?
kizanski Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, Cboss said: For 1980 what would be the difference between a Sunburst and a Special? Is it just binding on the sunburst? Binding and possibly crown inlays.
Cboss Posted January 12, 2024 Author Posted January 12, 2024 Same guitar in all other aspects though?
kizanski Posted January 12, 2024 Posted January 12, 2024 Yeah, that's pretty much it; body binding, optional neck binding, optional crown inlays.
Cboss Posted January 12, 2024 Author Posted January 12, 2024 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Yeah, that's pretty much it; body binding, optional neck binding, optional crown inlays. Thx
HSB0531 Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 11 hours ago, kizanski said: Yeah, that's pretty much it; body binding, optional neck binding, optional crown inlays. Yup, basically a stripped down Sunburst and also no maple veneer top either.
cmatthes Posted January 13, 2024 Posted January 13, 2024 27 minutes ago, HSB0531 said: Yup, basically a stripped down Sunburst and also no maple veneer top either. Almost ALL Specials had the maple veneer cap. Even. OST of the opaque finished ones.
HSB0531 Posted January 14, 2024 Posted January 14, 2024 21 hours ago, cmatthes said: Almost ALL Specials had the maple veneer cap. Even. OST of the opaque finished ones. Really?? I wonder why they did that, especial on the opaque finishes.
bry4321 Posted January 14, 2024 Posted January 14, 2024 On 1/12/2024 at 12:28 PM, Cboss said: For 1980 what would be the difference between a Sunburst and a Special? Is it just binding on the sunburst? $3000.00. 🤣🤷♂️
cmatthes Posted January 15, 2024 Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/13/2024 at 10:15 PM, HSB0531 said: Really?? I wonder why they did that, especial on the opaque finishes. They pulled those from stacks of bodies. The finishes were done based upon the orders, or in extremely rare cases an opaque finish was used if there was a mistake or the one piece veneer wouldn’t look as good with a trans finish. The veneers were about the thickness of a piece of construction paper.
HSB0531 Posted January 15, 2024 Posted January 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, cmatthes said: They pulled those from stacks of bodies. The finishes were done based upon the orders, or in extremely rare cases an opaque finish was used if there was a mistake or the one piece veneer wouldn’t look as good with a trans finish. The veneers were about the thickness of a piece of construction paper. Right. So the one body served both models which cut down on production costs.
Disturber Posted January 19, 2024 Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/13/2024 at 6:59 AM, cmatthes said: Almost ALL Specials had the maple veneer cap. Even. OST of the opaque finished ones. The 1990's P90 Specials had no maple cap or veneer. But you all know that.
kizanski Posted January 19, 2024 Posted January 19, 2024 18 minutes ago, Disturber said: The 1990's P90 Specials had no maple cap or veneer. But you all know that. OP is asking about a 1980.
Cboss Posted January 19, 2024 Author Posted January 19, 2024 41 minutes ago, kizanski said: OP is asking about a 1980. Different topic, but whatever happened to that one that you had restored?
kizanski Posted January 19, 2024 Posted January 19, 2024 Just now, Cboss said: Different topic, but whatever happened to that one that you had restored? That was a 1978. It's still in the HFC family.
Disturber Posted January 19, 2024 Posted January 19, 2024 1 hour ago, kizanski said: OP is asking about a 1980. my dumb ass didn't read properly.
cynic Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 On 1/12/2024 at 11:28 AM, Cboss said: For 1980 what would be the difference between a Sunburst and a Special? Is it just binding on the sunburst? Unless you're this guy with the alleged Sunburst built to Special specs.
kizanski Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 28 minutes ago, cynic said: Unless you're this guy with the alleged Sunburst built to Special specs. IF that guitar is legit, and let's assume that it is, I can just imagine the way the conversation went when it was ordered. Customer: I'd like to order a new sunburst... Red, dot inlays. Hamer: Neck binding? Customer: No. In fact, no binding on the body, either. Hamer: No binding on the body? With dot inlays and no neck binding, you're ordering a Special. Customer: No, I want a Sunburst with no binding and dot inlays. Hamer: Umm... yeah, that's a Special. Customer: Would a Special have a checkerboard logo? Hamer: Of course Customer: Ah ha.... Hamer: ...?... Customer: Ah ha... Again, if that guitar is legit, the person who ordered it basically paid extra for a different headstock logo.
Biz Prof Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 19 hours ago, kizanski said: IF that guitar is legit, and let's assume that it is, I can just imagine the way the conversation went when it was ordered. Customer: I'd like to order a new sunburst... Red, dot inlays. Hamer: Neck binding? Customer: No. In fact, no binding on the body, either. Hamer: No binding on the body? With dot inlays and no neck binding, you're ordering a Special. Customer: No, I want a Sunburst with no binding and dot inlays. Hamer: Umm... yeah, that's a Special. Customer: Would a Special have a checkerboard logo? Hamer: Of course Customer: Ah ha.... Hamer: ...?... Customer: Ah ha... Again, if that guitar is legit, the person who ordered it basically paid extra for a different headstock logo. "I'd like a cheeseburger....hold the cheese."
HSB0531 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 10:21 AM, kizanski said: That was a 1978. It's still in the HFC family. I like this: It's still in the HFC family. It means it will always be cared for by people who appreciate it more.
Cboss Posted January 22, 2024 Author Posted January 22, 2024 20 hours ago, HSB0531 said: I like this: It's still in the HFC family. It means it will always be cared for by people who appreciate it more. Please put me in the dibs que for this guitar if it becomes available
HSB0531 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 On 1/20/2024 at 7:22 PM, kizanski said: Again, if that guitar is legit, the person who ordered it basically paid extra for a different headstock logo. This exactly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
cmatthes Posted January 27, 2024 Posted January 27, 2024 On 1/20/2024 at 7:22 PM, kizanski said: Again, if that guitar is legit, the person who ordered it basically paid extra for a different headstock logo. Or…and hear me out on this theory…he ordered an inbound Sunburst before Hamer released the Special as a production model. The Grovers, if original, would support that.
kizanski Posted January 27, 2024 Posted January 27, 2024 16 minutes ago, cmatthes said: Or…and hear me out on this theory…he ordered an inbound Sunburst before Hamer released the Special as a production model. The Grovers, if original, would support that. That's a good theory. I'd have to know the serial number to know if it holds water.
cmatthes Posted January 27, 2024 Posted January 27, 2024 20 minutes ago, kizanski said: That's a good theory. I'd have to know the serial number to know if it holds water. Same here. Although as mentioned, the Grovers v. Schallers are a clue…
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