RichRS6

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£1366 UK Pounds. That's a bit more than I expected given the non original pick ups etc but not totally surprising remember "they don't make em like that anymore" etc. Early ones don't turn up for sale all that often in Europe either so if you really have to have one and don't want to wait for years it's worth every penny. Good grab IMO congrats to the new custodian.

Still reasonable IMO for a 78.

IIRC (others here know more) the very early fingerboards with crown inlays were sub contracted and these caused problems with some of the necks developing twists. The dot fingerboards were made in house and I can''t remember anyone reporting any problems with them.

I think the neck problems only happened on the bound fingerboards with crown inlays so this one should be fine if not you are protected to some extent if you buy through ebay and pay via paypal.

I bought my first Sunburst (a couple of years back so it'll be interesting to see where this ends up) it was a dot neck long headstock 78 (not in the ohsc but in good condition and all original) I paid £1250 for it from a shop in London where it had been sitting for a while, they had no luck selling it at that price and it went to ebay with no takers. Could be I got lucky (or not) but there's less interest from collector types in dot necks than B&C and they made more dots so they're easier to find and less expensive.

Yep, I was tripping....... Now edited for stoopidity...... 78's are much more interesting than 80's I didn't see the side pic of the bridge when I clicked the link first time either.

Bullseye Grovers. Given the dot neck, changed pickups, (no mention of where the originals are) brass knobs and lack of OHSC I would say (on this side of the pond) around £950 - £1050 but it could end up anywhere. FWIW I'm not going to be bidding........

Could be a 78 but it would have to be a late 78 as it has the short headstock.

Score ! Thunderbird pics please.

Woah ! Just checked the price on the white standard and almost choked. $7195 !!! (List $8995) good job I don't like pickguards on standards (or victory inlays). White Studio Custom $6950. (list $8710). No wonder they've been on the wall so long. Just one more reason Hamer went out of business if their C/O's were this expensive.

Looks like half of them look like special orders or custom jobs, gold hardware, black binding, sustain blocks and does the second one in have TV Jones pick ups ? Nice stash.

Fixed And added....... So is the White Studio (?) also with a sustainblock.

Remembered my log in and......... Very nice. Is there a timer running on this one yet ?

Thats no excuse, just post any old pic. I can't follow the link as I'm not GP member, well I am but forgot my log in details and it's probably not a good idea to go there anyway. I have enough trouble controlling my spending on this forum.

Come on stop toying with us.

Where are the pics ???

Welcome. It's a beauty alright. Not sure what you paid but a guitars value is down to many things and the main one is how bad a buyer wants the guitar. I have paid more for certain guitars than their"market value" because I don't like spending months searching high and low for the right one to appear at the right price (and I have some disposable income burning a hole in my pocket at the moment). If I added up the hours I've spent searching for a "bargain" then worked out an hourly rate for that wasted time it's just simpler, faster and better value to pay a little more and have what you want when you want it. With a top as nice as that if you ever want to move it on it shouldn't be too hard to get back most of what you paid. ETA. $4000 would be a lowball offer for this guitar, we're real tightwads here, you'll learn.... Good 4 Digits up to 1979 (ish) with crowns and binding (B&C) are the real "Grail guitars" as they really weren't making many at that time so they're harder to find are $5500+ (probably more these days) depending on condition/originality and how nice the top is/colour. There seems to be a drop in value as the production numbers increased after 1980 dot necks somewhere below this but again depends on the eye of the beholder. There's a book all about Hamer written by one of our own which is well worth buying.

Well, they aren't making them like this anymore. I agree the price is more than double what it's worth (with a dot neck and no binding) but they are seriously undervalued IMO when you consider what people seem to think their VOS production line, re-issue slapped together Gibsons are worth. At $4000 there might be a chance $10,000 forget it. As the seller is looking for offers it's more likely he's hoping for a higher offer than he would get if anyone wants to bid on it.

I'd much rather pay for this guitar than a 59 Les Paul.

Yes, more pics please and where did you get it from and why ?

Peter had a black standard for sale for a while which he put on Reverb as no one was biting here. Not sure if he's still got it. https://reverb.com/item/184386-hamer-standard-1982-black

When CD's appeared is pretty much when I stopped looking for or buying new guitar based music. Before that there was a lot of new wave/punk stuff floating around that I enjoyed and was buying on vinyl and a lot of the attraction was it was simple to learn and we thought that we were helping to overthrow the BOF's that we've all now become. I didn't have the dough (they weren't exactly cheap back then) for a new fangled gizmo and didn't want to replace my 12" collection with CD's which weren't cheap either and no one knew if it was going to be a long term replacement for the L.P. or if it would become the Betamax of music. The 80's hair metal thing never really did much for me even though I was playing in a NWOBHM type band, some great music and playing for sure but too much importance on the scene and the look which really had little relevance to a 20 year old living in Yorkshire. Not long after this I had a flirtation with the electronic music scene as I had cobbled together a small studio to record my stuff on which used the new 4 track/synth/sampling/midi technology which kind of led me in that direction and a lot of that was circulated on cassette tape or I taped from radio sessions as it wasn't available from any local record shops anyway. Now even though I have spending money I won't buy stuff unless I know theres more than 1 good song on it (lots of greatest hits) and a lot of the new guitar Metal stuff takes itself far too seriously for me now to want to explore it.

The mystery deepens..... It looks like it never had a S/N stamped there, it looks too clean, is there any evidence it's been ground off ? It would require removing quite a lot of the back of the headstock as a stamped in S/N is quite deep, I don't think Gibson were ink stamping the S/N's at that time but I may be wrong. Good luck with the quest.

Thats the one I think of when I think Gibson.