Usa or china ?

[pablo]

My friends how are u today, i know the pic are no good , but i have a bet with my dear friend in Argentina,  its like a father for my, he send me this pic, he says is a haner usa, i told him form me its an xt series ( china) ....what do u see there?😃

[cmatthes]

100% Chinese.

It's the regular XT Standard model from the mid-2000s.

[Steve Haynie]

China.  

Look at the 12th fret dots.  If they are wide apart like a Gibson, it is not a USA Hamer.  

I think there were some 1970's Hamers with wide dots, but Hamer put them closer together for most of the company history.  

[bruce919]

in the early 2000's Musicians friend had that one time for the deal of the day for $149.

[cmatthes]

It also has the ski boot headstock and 3 screw truss rod cover.

[pablo]

The owner still saying its is usa made 🤷‍♂️

If he is happy with that im happy too, this situation remember me this fable😂

Thanks for your help folks, i win the bet 😃

[Dave Scepter]

Here's the USA version 

[Tortious]

1 hour ago, pablo said:

The owner still saying its is usa made 🤷‍♂️

...

Thanks for your help folks, i win the bet 😃

Why is he still saying that? It's very clearly not.

And how did you win a bet if they are insisting something that isn't true?

 

 

[pablo]

3 hours ago, Tortious said:

Why is he still saying that? It's very clearly not.

And how did you win a bet if they are insisting something that isn't true?

 

 

Becouse : the owner of guitar is someone very close to my friend, a monster guy who know everything about guitars, he has a collection , he has sell lot of monster guitars for thousend of thousend dolars , he is a master of the history guitar and, its imposible that me ( a little Argentinian boy member of this fantastic forum) know more about hamer  than this sublime guy ( this are the words of my friend ) , i love him bjt some time he is a little asshole ( sorry for my spanish) . So you ( all of u in this tred) and i know i win the bet  , so it is enough for me

[kizanski]

9 hours ago, Tortious said:

And how did you win a bet if they are insisting something that isn't true?

Show them the back of the headstock where it says "Made in China."

[kizanski]

10 hours ago, Tortious said:

And how did you win a bet if they are insisting something that isn't true?

...or have them show the prospective buyer where it says "Made in USA," which isn't there, or the stamped-in serial number, which isn't there...

[diablo175]

8 hours ago, pablo said:

Becouse : the owner of guitar is someone very close to my friend, a monster guy who know everything about guitars, he has a collection , he has sell lot of monster guitars for thousend of thousend dolars , he is a master of the history guitar and, its imposible that me ( a little Argentinian boy member of this fantastic forum) know more about hamer  than this sublime guy ( this are the words of my friend ) , i love him bjt some time he is a little asshole ( sorry for my spanish) . So you ( all of u in this tred) and i know i win the bet  , so it is enough for me

It's probably best to let this person continue thinking he's got a USA Hamer but welcome him to discuss this with our own brothers Matthes. There are few people on here who know more about Hamer than the brother Matthes.

[pablo]

If u watch the first pic, he have a lot of guitar in his " collection" , supposedly all of them monster guitars, and this explorer " usa c is one of them.....

I ask my friend for the phone number of this collector, i wanna offer him the three fifty game.....i still waiting😂

Edited August 8, 2025 by pablo