Right Price for a pair of Hamers on EBay?

[BubbaVO]

What do you think is the right amount for these two Hamers:

The first is a 1977 Sunburst that needs a little work -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=260209721940

Here's the description: 1977 HAMER SUNBURST!! BEATIFUL FLAMETOP!! HAS HAD HEEL/NECK and HEADTOCK REPAIRS. THE GUITAR IS EXTREMELY SOLID!! HAS HUGE FRETS AND LOW ACTION!! IT NEEDS A NEW NUT... IT IS WORN AND CAUSES SOME BUZZING ON THE 1st STRING on the 1st FEW FRETS!! NEED AN ELECTRONICS COVER! THE PICKUPS LOOK LIKE DIMARZIO'S AND WORK FINE BUT ARE OF MEDIUM OUTPUT. FIX THE NUT AND PUT SOME HOTT HUMBUCKERS IN THIS AND YOU'VE GOT ONE ROCKIN' GUITAR! THE NECK IS STRAIGHT AND THE FRETS ARE GOOD!! I REPEAT...THE REPAIRS ARE SOLID!! ALL IS DISCLOSED AND IS SOLD AS A PROJECT AS IS-SO ASK ?'s 602 680 0686. FREE SHIPPING in the USA w/ BUY IT NOW:) KEEP ROCKIN'!!

The other one is a 25th Anniversary Artist that's been repaired:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=130196323157

Here's the key part of the description: ... The only flaw is that the guitar was knocked over and the neck was cracked. It was repaired by a very qualified luthier and I was assured by the seller that I could return it if I thought the neck was not stable. Within 1 minute of taking it out of the box I knew I would be keeping it. The repair job was incredible and I wanted a player not a museum piece. The neck is straight and the repair is not a factor at all other than visual.

I'm only selling it because I rarely play electric guitar anymore and have collected way too many guitars over the last 30 years. I think this is the 16th one I've sold over the last year. Other than the neck repair it's in excellent shape. The original case has a few dings but all latches are fine and it works fine. ...

[serial]

For starters, the red one is NOT a '77. It looks like a later '79 with lots of issues (wrong pickups, controls, etc). A heel AND neck repair, if done very well aren't a concern as a player, but as a collector, that kills the guitar completely. I still see '79s trading in the reasonable ranges (I missed out on an unbroken one with original pickups last week for $700) when sellers aren't sure of what they have, so anything over $400-500 on this might be overspent when you can't check it out first. If the issue IS the nut, fine, but with the heel and head repair, that makes me consider at least that it might be more than the nut that's causing the playing issues.

Haven't seen the 25th Ann, but they're in the sub-$1000 price (and a HELL of a steal for the guitar you're getting) unbroken when they come up for sale. 25th Anns might just be the most underrated Hamers going.

[Zoner]

I'm reasonably sure that 25th has been passed around the HFC a bit. If it is the same piece, and I'm about 95% sure it is, I bought it from Rocktuna for $450 and sold it to C1Hamerplus for the same amount about 2 years ago. The neck repair was quite solid and I moved it because it was overly bright sounding, but it was a pretty cool guitar otherwise. A busted and repaired neck from a "0" feedback seller posibly presents the opportunity for a great buy. If it is not the same guitar, I apologize. Z

[Submariner85]

I think you're right. I was looking at the break in the heal and it looks to be the same guitar or an identical break.

That was a great guitar. Played excellent but I sold it also because of brightness.

This isn't the guy who bought it from me though so I guess that guy sold it too.

[Rocktuna]

I agree that repair looks familiar. If you decide not to bid on it let me know I may be interested in it myself. It was a great guitar I just had to many guitars at the time (22) and felt the need to purge. PS the neck repair was super solid and though he didn't do it Uncle Greg looked at it and gave it his seal of approval

[stonge]

I agree that repair looks familiar. If you decide not to bid on it let me know I may be interested in it myself. It was a great guitar I just had to many guitars at the time (22) and felt the need to purge. PS the neck repair was super solid and though he didn't do it Uncle Greg looked at it and gave it his seal of approval

Was that the one that came from Ron's Guitar's down in Groton, CT? I'm trying to remember who did the repair, but I recall that a few folks in the shop checked that one out post-repair and said it was solid.

[silentman]

There was a 25tth that was paased around here to a few folks. I owned it for a while and it was solid repair at the heel. This one looks a bit different, but it's tought to tell from those pics.

[Submariner85]

I dug through some old pictures and I can confirm that that is not the same one that I had. My serial number was 049755 and the break was very similar but not quite exact.

[Zoner]

I dug through some old pictures and I can confirm that that is not the same one that I had. My serial number was 049755 and the break was very similar but not quite exact.

Look closer - they are the same guitar. Look carefully at the grain patterns and the serial #, and also the break. Z

[BubbaVO]

Verdict? Is the same or isn't?

If it is, what can you do to address the "brightness" issue Zoner and C1 raised? Or is the answer "nada" which is why it got sold?

[Zoner]

Verdict? Is the same or isn't?

If it is, what can you do to address the "brightness" issue Zoner and C1 raised? Or is the answer "nada" which is why it got sold?

I'd suggest swapping pickups as a first step if it is overly bright to your ears. I didn't want to mess with it and found a better fit right away, but if brightness is an issue there are many ways to give it a deeper, warmer voice. As I recall, it played great and was very resonant, so the tone is in there, it just needs a better avenue out! Z

[Submariner85]

The serial number on mine was 049755.

The one in the Ebay listing looks like 065755.

[slickwillie2]

Shouldn't that first number (in the serial #) be a 9 in both cases on a 25th Anniversary?

Looks to be the same guitar in my opinion.

Slickwillie2

[Jason01]

It can't be 065755, they hadn't hit 65k guitars 5 years later, and maybe still haven't (thats as new as I have so I don't know where current production is at).

[serial]

Same guitar-same serial #.