veatch 3,575 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Soooooooo.... Back on topic a bit.One of the things Hamer did a very good job at was getting their hands on some pretty fine hunks of wood. The rumor was that they still had a pretty select stash of top shelf pieces when Fender pulled the plug.Question is, for those that are "on the inside", "in the know", "have the lowdown", the "411", the "skinny", the "deep poop"... (have i annoyed you yet?)What happened to all the "good wood?" Did Fender move it to the custom shop? Did it stay in the factory and will be used on Guild guitars?Just curious and shtuff.Tnx Link to post Share on other sites
crunchee 5,474 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Soooooooo.... Back on topic a bit.One of the things Hamer did a very good job at was getting their hands on some pretty fine hunks of wood. The rumor was that they still had a pretty select stash of top shelf pieces when Fender pulled the plug.Question is, for those that are "on the inside", "in the know", "have the lowdown", the "411", the "skinny", the "deep poop"... (have i annoyed you yet?)What happened to all the "good wood?" Did Fender move it to the custom shop? Did it stay in the factory and will be used on Guild guitars?Just curious and shtuff.Tnx+1, I'm curious about that as well! Hamer ALWAYS had a great stash of woods. Look at Gibson, they've been reduced to using multi-piece Mahogany bodies and two ply Rosewood fretboards on a lot of their guitars in very recent years, they've had to save their one piece woods for the primo expensive gear. Not that those Fed raids helped in any way, BTW. Link to post Share on other sites
HamerHokie 64 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Once Windows really took off in the '90s, Microsoft once again leveraged its position to undercut the competition via bundling with the creation of Microsoft Office. Whereas Word Perfect was around $250 and so was Lotus 1-2-3, Microsoft bundled Word, Excel Spreadsheet, and PowerPoint for around $200-250 total. It was THIS move that presented a no-brainer to corporate accounts, and MS strengthened their position over the years by bundling more things with Office. Pretty soon Word Perfect and Lotus 1-2-3 were irrelevant in the Windows world. They tried to partner up to offer their own bundle, but it was too little, too late. Again, this was a brilliant move, but it was more about bundling and leverage than innovation, though I gotta admit I was quite smitten by Word 2.0 for Windows 3.1. The novelty wore off for me over time as the initial bugs and limitations persisted through several major releases, but that's another story.I gotta disagree here. MS Office wasn't just bundled - it was integrated. A huge benefit for corporations was the fact that you could easily link live data from one application to another. Your word processing reports could have data linked from spreadsheets and databases. Update the spreadsheet and the report updates as well. I used to use it all the time.I was a Wordperfect user for years, but Wordperfect definitely played catchup when the PC world jumped to MS Windows. Wordperfect 6.0 was their first real attempt at WYSIWIG but by then Word and Office had too strong a foothold. I remember Wordpress being bundled with Quattropro at one point, too little too late. Link to post Share on other sites
Cary 1,018 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Soooooooo.... Back on topic a bit. One of the things Hamer did a very good job at was getting their hands on some pretty fine hunks of wood. The rumor was that they still had a pretty select stash of top shelf pieces when Fender pulled the plug. Question is, for those that are "on the inside", "in the know", "have the lowdown", the "411", the "skinny", the "deep poop"... (have i annoyed you yet?) What happened to all the "good wood?" Did Fender move it to the custom shop? Did it stay in the factory and will be used on Guild guitars? Just curious and shtuff. Tnx I was at Sam Ash last weekend, and the salesman was talking about all the great flame tops on Fender's new "Select" Series, or what ever it's called. That right there may answer your question... Edited to add: Yep, here ya go... http://www.fender.com/series/fender-select/ Link to post Share on other sites
veatch 3,575 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Soooooooo.... Back on topic a bit.One of the things Hamer did a very good job at was getting their hands on some pretty fine hunks of wood. The rumor was that they still had a pretty select stash of top shelf pieces when Fender pulled the plug.Question is, for those that are "on the inside", "in the know", "have the lowdown", the "411", the "skinny", the "deep poop"... (have i annoyed you yet?)What happened to all the "good wood?" Did Fender move it to the custom shop? Did it stay in the factory and will be used on Guild guitars?Just curious and shtuff.TnxI was at Sam Ash last weekend, and the salesman was talking about all the great flame tops on Fender's new "Select" Series, or what ever it's called. That right there may answer your question...Edited to add: Yep, here ya go... http://www.fender.com/series/fender-select/That tobacco burst (4th from the left in the first rotating pic) looks strikingly "Hamer". Link to post Share on other sites
dragan 371 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 someday all guitars will be fender Link to post Share on other sites
cmatthes 20,651 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Fender raped and pillaged - that wood was gone very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
crunchee 5,474 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I wonder, when Fender came to pack up the wood, if it went anything like this? I dunno about Fender's "Select Series" getting the woods from Hamer's stash...rosewood fretboards? Maybe. Figured maple tops? Maybe (and I'd bet they'll cut them as thin as possible). The mahogany? Not for the "Select Series" so far, the bodies are all either alder, ash, or "Empress" (paulownia). For something else, apparently...but what? That "inset" rosewood fretboard that the "Select Series" uses makes me wonder if THAT isn't a cost-saving action, as far as the rosewood goes...maple is cheaper than rosewood and a lot more "renewable", and you can't tell how thick the rosewood fingerboard is in that neck. Also, witness that Fender has started putting a lot of "round laminated" rosewood fingerboards on some of their CS reissues, instead of the thicker "slab" rosewood fingerboards. Granted, "round laminated" rosewood fingerboards ARE period-correct for pretty much any '60's reissue (Fender originally started using them in late '62, because supposedly necks with "slab" boards were prone to warpage. Yeah, that doesn't quite make sense to me, either.), but I'm still suspicious. Especially since Gibson is making do with two-ply rosewood fretboards, either out of necessity or to cut costs, or both. Link to post Share on other sites
django49 10,402 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 someday all guitars will be fender Good God....Lets hope not! Link to post Share on other sites
dragan 371 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I was being sarcastic Link to post Share on other sites
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