How do you get rid of these pesky Trojans?

[mrhappy]

Thought I was ok but I'm going through another round of trojan nonsence. popped on the net and all hell broke loose! The antivirus program was freakin' out tryin' to keep up. I wound up in a panic and just yanked the plug out of the friggin wall!!!

How do you get rid of the stuff that you can't "heal"??

[kurtsstuff]

Probably need to upgrade your virus protection...If your running some "freeware" type of thing....your doomed

[Disturber]

Probably need to upgrade your virus protection...If your running some "freeware" type of thing....your doomed

I run Grisoft AVG Anti Virus. It's free and it's damn good.

Kicked all the viruses in the butt yesterday. My PC's harddrive

kept kicking like crazy, but the damn viruses went in to the virut vault.

I also run Sygate Personal Firewall. Free and it works just fine.

[Travis]

I haven't used Trojans in a long time. But I used to just pull them off my dick and throw them in the trash when I wanted to get rid of them.

[Matt Mattson]

Here's some tools:

http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/se...emovaltools.jsp

The ultimate answer is get a Mac on your next computer upgrade and you're free from 99% of that stuff (and you can also run Windows on it faster than Windows can run on a PC -- doubtful you'll want to though).

So:

1. Figure out what you've got

2. Look in the list of worms, viruses, and trojans.

3. Run the tool to get rid of it (them).

4. Restart your computer after running the tool

[kenjones]

The ultimate answer is get a Mac on your next computer upgrade and you're free from 99% of that stuff (and you can also run Windows on it faster than Windows can run on a PC -- doubtful you'll want to though).

+1

I'm on a Mac(s) and these recent problems with the board haven't been a problem for me at all. Well, the board being taken offline and me going through withdrawal has been problematic...

[mattb]

If you are running windows XP, perform a System restore. Then download the google pack (NO-Adaware) and run a full system scan. Quarantine and remove all files found. Should do it, it worked for me just fine.

[Guest pirateflynn]

The ultimate answer is get a Mac on your next computer upgrade and you're free from 99% of that stuff (and you can also run Windows on it faster than Windows can run on a PC -- doubtful you'll want to though).

+1

I'm on a Mac(s) and these recent problems with the board haven't been a problem for me at all. Well, the board being taken offline and me going through withdrawal has been problematic...

My Mac seems fine and I didn't even have the Firewall activated. I didn't know that it had to be turned on manually.

[MrGuitarguy]

System restore may work, because sometimes viruses use it to their advantage to continue to reappear.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I had something called Brave Sentry install itself on my computer from the message board.

I found the info to remove it manually here: Remove Brave Sentry

I also ran AVG to take care of it. You can get it here: AVG Antivirus

Finally, as suggested at the first link I installed spyware blaster and didn't get the most recent attack everyone else did. It prevents that type of malware from being installed on your computer as opposed to other that remove it after it's on. You can get it here: Spyware Blaster

Hope this helps!

Now for my mac rant (which I am putting up for reasons of supplying information only, not to bash anyone). I use macs and PCs everyday (and have for years). Despite the hype, macs crash twice as often as well PC's in my experience. Also I find that much of the software I like to use is unavailable on macs. Also, it's a fact that macs don't run as fast as PC's. (I've done a lot of testing) This includes graphics, video, and especially audio! This is especially true if your PC uses an AMD processor. It will smoke a mac and an Intel. Finally, now that Macs are able to run windows, they are able to run windows viruses, malware, spyware, etc. on their windows installations. This may or may not affect the mac operating system depending on how the virus is written and what it infects. Still, mac users (who run windows) can now enjoy all the problems we PC users do. Yea!

Don't get me wrong I'm not "anti mac." I just get tired of seeing commercials that say that macs are better at things that they're not better at. (Like the lack of need to install drivers, networking, or they're better to use recreational software on - who makes games, etc. for mac? Hardly anyone - what a load of crap. Even my mac user friends think those commercials are stupid.)

Again, I use them both everyday and these are just my opinions. As many people here are fond of saying, "Your mileage may vary."

[mathman]

I use macs and PCs everyday (and have for years). Despite the hype, macs crash twice as often as well PC's in my experience.

Again, I use them both everyday and these are just my opinions. As many people here are fond of saying, "Your mileage may vary."

If your macs are crashing you need to learn what you are doing wrong or find out what is wrong with them cause you may have an hardware issue. I rarely if ever have my Mac crash and I manage about 100 OSX macs and 140 OS 9 macs and yes OS 9 crashes but I only have a crash on my main laptop once every two or three months and I have some much stuff installed on it it ain't funny. Individual apps might crash but you just force quit and start again. Usually it is a browser hitting some poorly coded website. But it doesn't bring down the machine just the app. Start it back up and go again.

[Guest pirateflynn]

I had a Mac "The Cube" that WAS problematic........got rid of it. Since then, we have had two Macs in the family without any probelms at all.

[ET_KenW]

You may need to run your virus scan in safe mode. Press F8 while the machine is rebooting, then choose Safe Mode from the menu. This brings Windows up without all of the background crap running. Since these Trojans usualy go active with Windows, it's hard to find them since they mimic valid processes. Since Safe Mode does not allow them to start, the scan can then delete them. Once deleted, restart your machine.

Now the caveat. According to what I heard from our Desktop guys here, some of these Tojans were not found in Safe Mode due to not being active. Then once the machine was fully rebooted, it would pop back up. Now I don't know if this was true, or if some of these guys did the procedure wrong.

[mathman]

I had a Mac "The Cube" that WAS problematic........got rid of it. Since then, we have had two Macs in the family without any probelms at all.

Yea, no doubt about the "Cube" One of apples worst mistakes. Neat idea that cost too much and had too many problems.

[MrGuitarguy]

If your macs are crashing you need to learn what you are doing wrong or find out what is wrong with them cause you may have an hardware issue. I rarely if ever have my Mac crash and I manage about 100 OSX macs and 140 OS 9 macs and yes OS 9 crashes but I only have a crash on my main laptop once every two or three months and I have some much stuff installed on it it ain't funny. Individual apps might crash but you just force quit and start again. Usually it is a browser hitting some poorly coded website. But it doesn't bring down the machine just the app. Start it back up and go again.

The macs I'm using vary from OS 9 and OS X. All of which have stock hardware. Some include the Digidesign Protools HDand Mix hardware and others don't. If you're counting program crashes differently than OS crashes Win XP and Win NT are just as stable as they close programs, but the OS does not crash. Only one of these computers is used to surf the web using OS X. If the OS crashes on a PC a reboot will fix it as well.

I guess I should have also mentioned that I've worked in computer tech support for macs and pcs for about 7-8 years.

Edited to add:

I still hate all computers...

[mrhappy]

Guys...THANKS for all the info!! I'll get back with results or more ploblems.

[Matt Mattson]

Billy Bob free for 6 years and love it. Crash free, virus free, and free to make movies and music easily -- I absolutely love the Mac. I see no reason to install Windows on a Mac -- just noting that it will run, and will run fastest of all (on the new Macs). The new processors are so fast I run everything on a Mac laptop now (Final Cut Pro, Logic, etc.).

[darc]

If your macs are crashing you need to learn what you are doing wrong or find out what is wrong with them cause you may have an hardware issue.

And if your PC is crashing... same. They're just machines. Neither exist outside the bounds of causality.

I'm in an office in London right now listening to system admin's woes as he deals with compatibility and emulation issues between OS9 and OSX. The reality is that as the Windows world began to stabilize in recent years, the mac world went through some growing pains. But mac users on the whole will ignore this, instead presenting opinions that were formed at large somewhere around 1990. Since that time, PCs have improved, macs have occasionally stumbled, and now they are approaching the point where they are all but the same beast. (And will be before we have time to finish the argument.) This will probably steam a couple of people, but a major part of the reason a typical mac'er will overlook the mac's faults is because they don't know about them. The typical mac breaks less frequently because it just doesn't get used as hard. It looks pretty out of the box (admittedly, a compliment to the design) and it more or less stays that way.

I don't know why everyone - myself included - gets so worked up about their preferences. They're just computers, and if you have what you prefer, you're done with it.

[Guest Meshuggah]

Practice safe computing!

Wear a write protect tab!

[Matt Mattson]

If your macs are crashing you need to learn what you are doing wrong or find out what is wrong with them cause you may have an hardware issue.

And if your PC is crashing... same. They're just machines. Neither exist outside the bounds of causality.

I'm in an office in London right now listening to system admin's woes as he deals with compatibility and emulation issues between OS9 and OSX. The reality is that as the Windows world began to stabilize in recent years, the mac world went through some growing pains. But mac users on the whole will ignore this, instead presenting opinions that were formed at large somewhere around 1990. Since that time, PCs have improved, macs have occasionally stumbled, and now they are approaching the point where they are all but the same beast. (And will be before we have time to finish the argument.) This will probably steam a couple of people, but a major part of the reason a typical mac'er will overlook the mac's faults is because they don't know about them. The typical mac breaks less frequently because it just doesn't get used as hard. It looks pretty out of the box (admittedly, a compliment to the design) and it more or less stays that way.

I don't know why everyone - myself included - gets so worked up about their preferences. They're just computers, and if you have what you prefer, you're done with it.

I bought the Mac to do movies and music and it does all that with no muss no fuss. Make the music or movie, hit the button "share", and make a cd, streaming audio/video for the web, a dvd, etc., etc. No need for a programmer or Chinese doctor. For years I wanted to make aviation movies and couldn't figure out how to do it. The Mac set me free to do that and much more effortlessly. Not PO'd at all. Totally happy.

[darc]

Well, I think it comes back to what I've already said. You wrote "6 years Billy Bob free" and the big bottom line is that a lot has changed in that time. I do tons of cool stuff with a PC these days too (and sometimes read online forums where Mac users are having a harder time of the same tasks, even. This is generally a reflection of nothing more than a difference in the Mac release of an application vs. the PC release.)

I happen to be a programmer, but I never wear that hat when I drive my PC at home. My Chinese Doctoring practice is somewhat limited as well. It all just sounds like more "ooh PCs are scary" hooey to me. But I shan't get my panties in a bunch...

They're just computers. Increasingly similar as they become more and more refined.

[Matt Mattson]

Nah -- PC's certainly aren't scary to me -- been on them since day one with 64K floppy disks that held the entire program. On the net when we had to type in raw commands, just after Al Gore thought it all up.

The advantage of the Mac is it all comes loaded to make music and movies from the get go. Want to make pro music and movies? There's only one program to buy in each case (Logic for music, Final Cut Pro for commercial movies).

I am amazed at the number of commercials, Hollywood movies, etc., that I hear raw Apple loops in from Soundtrack (that's the pro movie app (Final Cut Pro) sound machine) and Logic (that's the pro music app). There's a guy named "BT" that takes Logic on a laptop and scores movies. Many of the pro tours now run their sound systems with Logic only, but probably most music is simply made on "Garageband" which is fast supplanting Logic as the preferred home studio and first mix tool (you can take what you make in Garageband the further refine it in Logic).

Take a look at the pro applications if you're interested (practically everything else comes loaded on your Mac (including Garageband -- part of I-life).

http://www.apple.com/software/

Agreed they're all good -- not a problem guy. We're all just one happy family. And think of the plus side if you're a programer: the more people I can convince to get a Mac, the sooner you'll be able to sit at home and make music!

[darc]

Agreed they're all good -- not a problem guy. We're all just one happy family.

Agreed.

And think of the plus side if you're a programer: the more people I can convince to get a Mac, the sooner you'll be able to sit at home and make music!

I'm already making music on my PC - have been for years. I guess that's where I take exception, but I know I'm well past belaboring the point already. I just feel like there's a consistent air of misinformation, but I'm not sure how I ever got caught up thinking it was my problem anyway.

[saxmanjack]

My ewido anti-spyware happened to be inactive for some reason at the time my computer was infected, and simply running a scan would not eliminate the trojans. Luckily, Grisoft (also makes AVG), has pretty good tech support and has been emailing long, complicated removal instructions. Will share these if needed...

[Lockbody]

...(practically everything else comes loaded on your Mac (including Garageband -- part of I-life)....

Somehow, when Microsoft does this, they're "stifling competition".

[BCR Greg]

My ewido anti-spyware happened to be inactive for some reason at the time my computer was infected, and simply running a scan would not eliminate the trojans. Luckily, Grisoft (also makes AVG), has pretty good tech support and has been emailing long, complicated removal instructions. Will share these if needed...

Good idea for those that were not as prepared as most of us.