MTM105 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 Personally, I don't know why we constantly try to get a Gibson tone and then say Gibson is crap -- for me, I like my Studio better than the LP. I certainly would play a 335 more than the LP because I play it more than the Studio (and I like its sound much better than the LP too). There you have it, total confusion.For the past several years my Shredder has been my go to guitar. Then recently I purchased an import 335, not thinking I would be too crazy about it. Now that is my "go to" guitar. I like playing acoustic, but I prefer the sound of a PAF. So its a combination of the two. Took me years to figure it out.....I just assumed that Clapton, Lifeson, Fogerty all put down their 335s, then the guitar must be somewhat no longer status quo. I feel that if you aren't strumming like a fool, then your just borrowing time. I swore I would never find a reason to put down the Shredder.Why did they put down their 335s?? It insults my intelligence because if you recorded with it, then why not at least play it on stage for one particular song?I am a dork. I have no clue to where this post started to where it is going....It beats starting another useless thread I guess.
Matt Mattson Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Why did they put down their 335s?It doesn't look "rock" whatever that is, is all I can think of at the moment. As I understand it, during the span all those "classic" albums were made, the standard studio guitar was a 335. They get little respect compared to the LP have somehow become associated with old jazz or blues players almost exclusively and apparently the view they do one thing. Fine with me, I can still afford them.
MTM105 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Posted February 12, 2007 As much as a genius Alex Lifeson was during the earlier stages of Rush, his career has gone down the tubes. Can we hear a classic with 335???? How can one walk away from the sound of 2112? Working Man, etc...He set himself up as a rock standard with 335 and Marshall stack. Then he went commercial. He went from Rock God to sell out slob.http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Eric-Clapton-ES...1QQcmdZViewItem12 K guitar. 1 offer.
Matt Mattson Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 Most of the 335's just scroll off without an offer.
Craig S Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 It doesn't look "rock" whatever that is, is all I can think of at the moment.Not always fashionable... It's funny when you show up a a gig with a 335 or Gretsch...people will go nuts over them.
MTM105 Posted February 13, 2007 Author Posted February 13, 2007 My last thread said that feedback was an issue. That can't be the case because Uncle Ted with his 355 and Malcom Young with Gretch hollowbody can't both be wrong???? Talk about loud.The 335 is so big that an average size quitarist looks tiny. So they opt for the LP.LP is so status quo it amazes me. I know if I had one, I'd probably be singing a different tune.When was the last time an artist smashed an LP on stage????? Townsend during the 70's ?
hamerhead Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 I have had both. A 79 LP and a 81 Special. The LP is long gone but the Special is still here. That LP was a beauty but it weighed a ton and was very uncomfortable. I could get the same tone from the Hamer without the neck and shoulder pain and that became my number 1. I am very afraid. I, too, have a '79 LP and an '81 Special. The LP WAS my #1, now the Special is. The Prince of Darkness and I have even MORE in common.....could it be...... Anyway, Citrus is right - tone is in the hands. If I played EVH's guitar through EVH's rig, I'd sound like a feeb. If I played Eric Johnson's guitar through Eric Johnson's rig, I'd still sound like a feeb. I will sound like a feeb no matter what I use. But I'm OK with that. It sounds like me.
Matt Mattson Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 The 335 is so big that an average size quitarist looks tiny. So they opt for the LP.Agreed. I remind all the girls that size does matter.
Guest Meshuggah Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Eric-Clapton-ES...1QQcmdZViewItem12 K guitar. 1 offer.Aw come on now. A few pieces of wood, plastic and aluminum that are guarenteed, guarenteed by marketing to have all the cache of a few subtley placed words in the accompanying literature that reference a time and a place far, far away...Who wouldn't cough up the price of a good Toyota for that!?
Matt Mattson Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 They even relic the case! Hang that on the wall too . . . P.T. Barnum had a saying.
straightblues Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 I just bought two Les Pauls in the last 4 months. A 2000 Standard and a 2000 Historic 1956 Reissue (Goldtop with P90's). These guitars sound different than any other guitars I have played.
tafkathundernotes Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 All I know is when I loaned my Sunburst to the guitarist in my band, the sound (compared to his LP) was like night and day. The Hamer smokes that particular Les Paul hands-down.
Sikor Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 I got my Studio Custom a few weeks ago as result of long LP-ish guitar search. I have tested 3 different Hamer Studios against Gibson LP Traditional and Standard. Studio Custom with maple cup and SD 59s was much closer sounding to LP Traditonal, than it was Standard. So, for me, Studio Custom can actually sound more LP-ish than a real LP
gorch Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 As far as I'm concerned, I remember sayings on the board in the past, that the Hamer Standards come closest to the LP sound. At least, the Standards have a similar amount of Mahogany to compete with the sick body of a LP. The swinging wing of a Standard provides a great fundament to the sound. The rest is electronics though that should be equal for a fair comparison.
sonic1974 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 It's a difficult question to answer..............Les Paul's sound so different between different guitars. So, you have to ask, what kind of Les Paul are you comparing the Hamer to?
cynic Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 I can't say, I've never heard Paul play edit: Scratch that.......they sound NOTHING alike!!!
formula73 Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 The 335 is so big that an average size quitarist looks tiny. That's the best part! They're like gut and love handle camoflauge! Regardless, I'm so short that even LPs look big on me.
polara Posted July 12, 2010 Posted July 12, 2010 If you take Les Paul Hisself, playin' his very own Les Paul as the definitive Les Paul Sound (and how can you argue with that) then I'd say most people who own that model guitar are not getting The Sound.I think where you turn the knobs on the guitar, and the parts you play, will make more difference in sound than the model guitar you're picking up. Yeah, I know most of us aren't really answering the question directly but I guess what I mean is there are far too many variables to ever do a true comparison test. A solid mahogany set-neck guitar with two PAF-ish humbuckers is gonna sound roughly like other guitars of the type. Same if you add a maple top or make it P90s or make it hollow or whatever. Probably as much variation from LP to LP as there is from brand to brand.
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