Ting Ho Dung Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Why 2 x 10 over 1 or 2 x 12 or in Ampeg bass speaker cab 8 x 10 over 4 x 15? Ribbed vs. unribbed. Wattage ratings, i.e. Vintage 30 I'm assuming is thirty watts. How can it be used in a 100 watt head? Jensen vs Webber vs Celestion vs Electro Voice. Electro Voice monster 300 watt 12 L vs Greenbacks. I know it's a lot.Dank
Jakeboy Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Look on the Marshall forum for a sticky about speakers...called Everything you wanted to know about speakers or something to that effect..... Or we can do it here. HFC style. I'll need some serious time to get the ball rolling.
dragan Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I think it has to do with the free air resonance of a 15" speaker matching the resonant frequecy of the room , 10s have a higher resonant frequency so tend to boom less, resonate above the resonant room frequency ? the low frequency cut off has more to do with cone area & porting so 4-10" have a larger cone area than 1 -15 ? ( or something to that effect as I recall )(low feq cutoff also has to do with speaker excurssion )
cynic Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 ^^ JGale beat me to it. Check out the link near the top left "Speaker Resources" and go to the FAQ from there.
Brooks Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 to raadically oversimplify it;celestion styled speakers break up and color the mids a certian "marshall-y" way,jensen styled speakers break up and color the mids another "fender-y" way,EV's & JBL's don't breakup as much and have more lows.
unfun75 Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 to raadically oversimplify it;celestion styled speakers break up and color the mids a certian "marshall-y" way,jensen styled speakers break up and color the mids another "fender-y" way,EV's & JBL's don't breakup as much and have more lows.And Eminence makes clones of them all!
gorch Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 to raadically oversimplify it; celestion styled speakers break up and color the mids a certian "marshall-y" way, jensen styled speakers break up and color the mids another "fender-y" way, EV's & JBL's don't breakup as much and have more lows. And Eminence makes clones of them all!^This
Brooks Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 i've tried a bunch of guitar speakers; 12's, 10's, 15's, celestions (75's, V30's, greenbacks, others), jensens, jensen styled webers, JBL styled webers, EV's, & several emi's (wizard, swamp thing, legend, ramrod, patriot, others)... everyone has their favorite, but my fave guitar spkr is the eminence man-o-war. its a british voiced (celestion styled) speaker w/ (IMFO) characteristics of EV/JBL's (more even thru the whole spectrum of lows mids & highs, no harsh spikes). i tried them because of reading this about chris poland; “IT’S A CLICHÉ BUT IT’S TRUE,” SAYS OHM guitarist Chris Poland. “If you keep doing what you love, eventually people will notice.” Scores of metalheads thrilled to Poland’s groundbreaking work on the first two Megadeth records. Now with his shred fusion trio OHM, Poland is putting his massive tone, deep vibrato, and molten legato runs back in people’s faces on the band’s new album, Circus of Sound [shrapnel]. Your phrasing on the opening tune, “Fun House,” is really liquid, especially with all the whammy bar work. How did you get that sound?It didn’t really sound like that until we went in to record it. I had just gotten those Eminence Man O War speakers, and those speakers, a Roger Mayer fuzz, and a cranked Marshall power amp made that sound. It was that tone that made me play that way. You have a good-sized rack of gear. If you had to pick three pieces that you consider indispensable, what would they be?I’d have to pick four: the MosValve power amp, the Bogner Fish preamp, the Roland SRV2000 reverb, and my Eminence speakers. If that’s all I had, I could still do a show. The core of everything I do is in those four things. The way the preamp and power amp interact and the way they hit the speakers is key. - See more at: http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/ohm39s-chris-poland-on-his-record-circus-of-sound/8240#sthash.2AxXmxzz.dpuf
gtone Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Don't overlook Warehouse Guitar Speakers (WGS) - they have some bitchin', made in US speakers at affordable prices. Murkat will back me up on this.
dragan Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 gtr speakers are a whole different animal than pa type speakers. guitar speakers like has been said color the sound ,pa type speakers do not or do less . bass speakers are closer to pa type speakers , w/ usually higher wattage ratings . JBL & Ev are used a lot for gtrs but are actually closer to pa type speakers higher wattage means less break up & they ( in theory anyway ) color the sound less ).but the reason 10s are used over 15s for bass has to do with resonance of speaker & room frequencies. I posted this before , if your just interested in hearing different speakers , google eminence tone center , or tone chamber ,there are places set up with multiple speakers you can a/b many eminece speakers most have jensen & weber as well . as far as ribs go on the cone , that is for cone stiffness , a way of making a lighter cone stiffer . weight of the cone also has to do with resonance .http://www.thetonechamber.com/the_chamber.html in the end all the techno crap dont really matter , ya still gotta hear what you like, check out the eminence "man o war" its they're version of the 70s -80s rola g12?75 $89 its a great speaker
Rich_S Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 BTW, for some reason that will never be known, the Vintage 30 has a 60-watt power rating. It's actually a higher-powered speaker that the classic models, which tend to be in the 20 to 30 range. Weird.
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