Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I Just recently purchased a couple of prototypes and one standard and they sure look different from the guitars on this site...If anybody knows what little details to look for, that would help a bunch!<3
serial Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Post pics and we can help a lot more.Hamer never had guitars made in Japan. USA guitars and import lines from Korea and Indonesia.There were never import Prototypes.Very simple to spot differences.
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Post pics and we can help a lot more.Hamer never had guitars made in Japan. USA guitars and import lines from Korea and Indonesia.There were never import Prototypes.Very simple to spot differences.So what are the differences. cuz I found this and they look like original hamers to me...http://www.kandashokai.co.jp/flos/hamer/
cmatthes Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc.
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc. Thanx<3
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc.Thanx<3Soooo This is a fake?http://www.diamondstrings.com/hamer%20velocity%20bass%20red-4.jpg
specialk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 So tell us! Are they USA Hamers? Either way, pics would be great. We loves them.
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc.Thanx<3Soooo These are fake right? I dont see USA on the waterslide..http://www.diamondstrings.com/hamer%20velocity%20bass%20red-4.jpghttp://worldmusicsupply.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/1339759666.jpghttp://www.whiskeyzulu.com/guitar/SSStudio.JPGhttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/976/dsc036901jpg.jpghttp://www.hamerfanclub.com/images/83BLITZ.JPGhttp://elderly.com/new_instruments/items/images/40N/ECHO-CH_front.jpg
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 So tell us! Are they USA Hamers? Either way, pics would be great. We loves them. well you guy's said Prototypes are not made in Korea so that answer's that...And My standard looks just like Matthes...=) as soon as I get around to it I will post Photos..
cynic Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 All you linked to are imports except the 1983 Blitz, which is a US made guitar.
JohnnyB Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The SSStudio hosted at Whiskeyzulu.com is a Hamer/Slammer Series, the first generation of Hamer imports, made by Cort in Korea, and generally considered the best of the imports even though they had Duncan Designed pickups made in Asia rather than USA-made. On guitars with dot fret markers, the double dots at the 12th fret are widely spaced on the imports, much closer together on the USA models. Example: import on left, USA on right.
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The SSStudio hosted at Whiskeyzulu.com is a Hamer/Slammer Series, the first generation of Hamer imports, made by Cort in Korea, and generally considered the best of the imports even though they had Duncan Designed pickups made in Asia rather than USA-made. On guitars with dot fret markers, the double dots at the 12th fret are widely spaced on the imports, much closer together on the USA models. Interesting!
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 All you linked to are imports except the 1983 Blitz, which is a US made guitar.So the Blitz Comes without the USA Watermark?
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The SSStudio hosted at Whiskeyzulu.com is a Hamer/Slammer Series, the first generation of Hamer imports, made by Cort in Korea, and generally considered the best of the imports even though they had Duncan Designed pickups made in Asia rather than USA-made. On guitars with dot fret markers, the double dots at the 12th fret are widely spaced on the imports, much closer together on the USA models. Example: import on left, USA on right. mwah
Guest Hanna Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 All you linked to are imports except the 1983 Blitz, which is a US made guitar.So in 1983 they did not watermark USA on Blitz's?
Andrew Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 All you linked to are imports except the 1983 Blitz, which is a US made guitar.So in 1983 they did not watermark USA on Blitz's?Yes, ALL 83 Blitz guitars have USA after the Hamer. In fact every Hamer USA will have the little USA on the logo, except a few very early 1977 Sunbursts, which have a different 'R' to the usual logo.The logos are dry transfers, not water-slide (by the way).
JohnnyB Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 All you linked to are imports except the 1983 Blitz, which is a US made guitar.So in 1983 they did not watermark USA on Blitz's?Got a pic? AFAIK Hamers made in the USA always had the USA mark next to the "R" in Hamer on the headstock.
hamerhead Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Yes - ALL stock USA made Hamers have the little 'USA' after the big 'Hamer' logo. The one in the Blitz pic may not be showing up because of the picture quality, or it's a re-fin, but no import Blitzes were ever made.
Bennyboy-UK Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (I have a a Special FM without the USA bit on the decal but that's a very rare exception)
Bennyboy-UK Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 ...actually it has got the USA of the logo. I've just contradicted myself...It just doesn't say Special on it...I'm getting old.And I like Gin too much.Sorry.
cmatthes Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc.Thanx<3Soooo This is a fake?http://www.diamondstrings.com/hamer%20velocity%20bass%20red-4.jpgNo, it's not fake. Velocity basses were NEVER made in the USA.
Guest Hanna Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Those aren't MADE in Japan. Kanda Shokai is a Japanese distributor.The headstock pictured is a USA model (a Talladega). The other three guitars I can see there, Vector, Standard, and what they're calling a "Sunburst", are all "XT Series" imports, manufactured in Indonesia/China.Where are the Prototypes (or prototypes)?The easiest way to tell is the little "USA" after the logo on the headstock, but there are many, many other ways - like the 3piece "stressed" neck; real Seymour Duncan pickups v. "Duncan Designed" or "Hamer XT" pickups; Quality pots, cavity shielding and brushed anodized aluminum control plates v. cheap pots/mini pots, poorly brushed/no shielding and plastic plates, etc.Thanx<3Soooo This is a fake?http://www.diamondstrings.com/hamer%20velocity%20bass%20red-4.jpgNo, it's not fake. Velocity basses were NEVER made in the USA.So tell me if I am understanding you correctly...You are saying that it is not an American made instrument, and the reason the velocity bass is not fake? Why is it not a Fake? Does some other country have rights to produce them?
cmatthes Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Hamer has NEVER made Velocity basses in the USA. They are an import-only bass that they started making in the early '00s. It's not "fake", because Hamer has always made it as an import-only model. The earlier ones are Korean made and are mostly Bubinga construction, but the more recent, Chinese/Indonesian are some variety of Ash and/or Maple.Hamer has had import lines (manufactured in Korea, Indonesia or China) since the early '90s. Not all of the imports (think of the Echotone, Stellar, Velocity...) are import versions of their USA models.
polara Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 It's interesting to see a newcomer's take on all this. Is there a company with a more confusing "system" of guitars? T-62s, Phantoms and then Phantoms, Daytonas, Sunbursts, Prototypes, Standard Customs, Specials... then Slammer Series, Hamer Slammer Pickups, Slammer by Hamer... it seems as if every two years the company would try to come up with a new brand and model architecture that made slightly more sense than the one before.Hanna, if it says USA in tiny letters after HAMER, it's made in USA.If it says HAMER or HAMER SLAMMER SERIES it was made in Korea and the model may be a Korean version of a USA or it may be a model that was only made in Korea.If it says HAMER and then "XT Series" on the truss rod cover, it was Indonesian.If it says SLAMMER, run away.
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