Steve Haynie Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Graphtech has an innovation on tuning machines. Ratio So, the concept is to have a different gear ration on each string. After so many years of tuning guitars it ought to be nothing for any of us to keep using what we have. On the other hand, this could be a good idea. Who wants to try a set of these?
murkat Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 if you are a manual tuning quick change artist to different tunings, sure, this could be "nice"Plenty of detune pedal types out there, plenty of robot type guitars out there.aint nuttin needed for for sum slammin rock en roll thou.
bubs_42 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 The Amps & Axes Podcast was discussing this very thing a few months ago. The concept is great but....
Ted Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 The Amps & Axes Podcast was discussing this very thing a few months ago. The concept is great but....You can't leave us hanging like that Bubs!
Stike Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 I have a set on one of my guitars. I don't do any retuning or anything but I like the low E tuner's higher ratio a lot.
bubs_42 Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 The Amps & Axes Podcast was discussing this very thing a few months ago. The concept is great but....You can't leave us hanging like that Bubs!How many guitarist really know what a RATIO is?
aknapp Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 The Amps & Axes Podcast was discussing this very thing a few months ago. The concept is great but.... You can't leave us hanging like that Bubs! How many guitarist really know what a RATIO is? Ratio? Isn't that what they used to play music on?
Nathan of Brainfertilizer Fame Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 All things being equal, it's a great idea. Different string gauges have different tension, so the gear ratio should be different.But I wouldn't pay extra money for it. It's not that important.
bubs_42 Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 All things being equal, it's a great idea. Different string gauges have different tension, so the gear ratio should be different.But I wouldn't pay extra money for it. It's not that important.That IS the point.
cynic Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Let's say "normal" tuners have a ratio somewhere between 12:1 and 18:1. Doesn't a 39:1 ratio on the E translate to roughly three times the turns from slack to pitch on a restring?Do these come in a locking version?
veatch Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Tension is roughly the same on each string. The video sez it well - the thickness of the string is where the ratio assists in keeping things consistent. Anyone who has changed strings knows it takes a lot more turns on the high e than the low e. The low e is thicker meaning more string length is changed per turn. That all said, I'll do a dive bomb turning a tuner in a pinch. Try that with a 39:1 ratio tuner.... :/
cynic Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Anyone who has changed strings knows it takes a lot more turns on the high e than the low e. At a minimum I've done several hundred string changes over the past thirty five years. It's such a mindless activity, I honestly couldn't have told you one string took more turns than the other. I've never counted.
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Graphtech has an innovation on tuning machines.
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So, the concept is to have a different gear ration on each string. After so many years of tuning guitars it ought to be nothing for any of us to keep using what we have. On the other hand, this could be a good idea. Who wants to try a set of these?
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