MarkF786 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 All I'm saying is Hamer released the Talledega, and then released Jol Dantzig.Put down the crack pipe.So that you can have a hit?If it'll help me catch what your throwing, I'll give it a try.
coolfeel Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I have had a Superpro and Tally Pro at the same time. They are both fantastic guitars and different. I prefer the Tally Pro for my general style of playing. All a matter of personal taste I suppose...
bubs_42 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I have had a Superpro and Tally Pro at the same time. They are both fantastic guitars and different. I prefer the Tally Pro for my general style of playing. All a matter of personal taste I suppose... BINGO
MarkF786 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I have had a Superpro and Tally Pro at the same time. They are both fantastic guitars and different. I prefer the Tally Pro for my general style of playing. All a matter of personal taste I suppose... I'm gonna take a swig of Jack, hop on my Harley, drive to the tattoo shop, and get me some ink that says "SuperPros Suck!".
MCChris Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I'm gonna take a swig of Jack, hop on my Harley, drive to the tattoo shop, and get me some ink that says "SuperPros Suck!".Based on what? I thought you owned a Monaco Elite.
MarkF786 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I'm gonna take a swig of Jack, hop on my Harley, drive to the tattoo shop, and get me some ink that says "SuperPros Suck!".Based on what? I thought you owned a Monaco Elite.Yup, owned.I'm just taking a "full of piss and vinegar attitude". No need to communicate: just blast my opinion like a cranking a loud tune at a stop light to annoy the cars next to me. "Did you say something? Sorry, let me turn it up to 11!"
MarkF786 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Yup, owned.An Elite ain't a SuperPro.It's come down to that 3/4" difference, eh?
bubs_42 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 All right whom ever took the shit in this thread, get the shovel please and dump it somewhere else. Yup, owned. An Elite ain't a SuperPro. It's come down to that 3/4" difference, eh? As for the above question, you must know your facts before you Tangle with the above. So if you assume, it makes and Ass out of you and fuels their fire only proving their point. But for the record i'm not taking any sides.
MCChris Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 It's come down to that 3/4" difference, eh?That and the oversized body, the dimensions of which result in larger chambers on the SuperPro.For the record, I have no issue with the Talladega other than its aesthetics, which I've come to mind less over time. I've played Bruce's at the 4321 Club and liked it fine, even though I'm not a single coil guy. I'd gladly rock a Tally Pro anytime.
MarkF786 Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I myself would love to see a constructive conversation on the pros and cons of the SuperPro and Talladega Pro from someone who played both; on the surface, they're pretty similar guitars. But maybe I tread into this holy thread where the only acceptable comment is, "SuperPro Rulez, Dudez!"
django49 Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Do not have one of each at hand at the moment. There certainly are similarities. Stock, my PERSONAL preference would be the Tally Pro. The wrap tailpiece may be a shortcoming (if that bothers you----I think it works fine). The more Gibson-ish knobs (2 tones) appeals to me SLIGHTLY more, but is not a major issue. My recollection is that the SuperPro sounded a BIT more "acoustic". But the one I am referring to has a piezo (factory) so that may be "distorting" my recollection of the SP. With an upgrade of pickups (changing out to Lollar Imperials) there was (IMHO) a MAJOR improvement in the Tally Pro.And one other issue is that there seem to be many fewer Tally Pros than SuperPros. (I do not have any idea on numbers). In all likelihood, it will cost more to get the Talladega. On that basis alone, it probably makes sense to look for a SuperPro. But if a Tally Pro crosses your path (at a reasonable price) I would highly recommend giving it a listen.And, if between a chambered Elite and a SuperPro.......There are some differences. The former has the shorter scale and has more the solid body feel and sound (IMHO) whereas the SP does have the longer scale and that airier sound. Even though they (I THINK) have the same pickups. Not exactly on target, but you might get more of a "Les Paul" sense from the Elite, a "335-ish" touch from the SP. (My Elite has been upgraded from the stock Duncan pickups, so that further adds to that different sound/feel).
kizanski Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 I myself would love to see a constructive conversation on the pros and cons of the SuperPro and Talladega Pro from someone who played both; on the surface, they're pretty similar guitars. But maybe I tread into this holy thread where the only acceptable comment is, "SuperPro Rulez, Dudez!"Well to answer the question for you yourself, the Tally and the SuperPro are totally different guitars, and yes, it's all about personal preference. (And since you mentioned the Elite, you should know that is also a completely different guitar. Yes, the 3/4" matters a lot).The Tally has that V profile neck, which I hate, the DD pickups, which I hate the sound of, and the affor-mentioned aesthetics, which I hate. Even the knobs are ridiculously close together for no reason.It's everything that the SuperPro isn't.So, to sum up, I don't like the feel, sound, or look of them.The SuperPro is perfect for me but the Elite looks like the SuperPro's retarded little brother.Like a Les Paul got dropped on its head as a child.
coolfeel Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 I myself would love to see a constructive conversation on the pros and cons of the SuperPro and Talladega Pro from someone who played both; on the surface, they're pretty similar guitars. But maybe I tread into this holy thread where the only acceptable comment is, "SuperPro Rulez, Dudez!" Well to answer the question for you yourself, the Tally and the SuperPro are totally different guitars, and yes, it's all about personal preference. (And since you mentioned the Elite, you should know that is also a completely different guitar. Yes, the 3/4" matters a lot). The Tally has that V profile neck, which I hate, the DD pickups, which I hate the sound of, and the affor-mentioned aesthetics, which I hate. Even the knobs are ridiculously close together for no reason. It's everything that the SuperPro isn't. So, to sum up, I don't like the feel, sound, or look of them. The SuperPro is perfect for me but the Elite looks like the SuperPro's retarded little brother. Like a Les Paul got dropped on its head as a child.
MarkF786 Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 Well to answer the question for you yourself, the Tally and the SuperPro are totally different guitars, and yes, it's all about personal preference. (And since you mentioned the Elite, you should know that is also a completely different guitar. Yes, the 3/4" matters a lot).The Tally has that V profile neck, which I hate, the DD pickups, which I hate the sound of, and the affor-mentioned aesthetics, which I hate. Even the knobs are ridiculously close together for no reason.It's everything that the SuperPro isn't.Thanks for the feedback. That sounds like the standard Talladega you're describing. There are a fair amount of differences between the Tally and Tally Pro, but I haven't played the standard Tally to be able to have much of an opinion yet. Beyond the obvious differences in pickups and bridge, one thing the Pro has that the standard doesn't is a contoured back around the upper bout and neck; it makes it very comfortable to play. The humbuckers sounds great; better than Seth Lovers, which I tried in my Monaco Elite. Having the four knobs is cool, though I think the three knobs of the Monaco are adequate.Hopefully I'll come across a Monaco SuperPro someday to try.
bubs_42 Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 This one? Duncan's it is so funny that i've looked at that picture a hundred times and just realized that it was shot at the Minni Jam. I remember Marsha sounding fanstic but don't remember you playing a Superpro. Anyway Superpro Landed today and the its a beast! I could not think of a better pair of pickups than this for this guitar.
Crimsontider Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 Mine in action: This reminds a little of 311. Any influence in the band?
duncans Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 This one? Duncan's it is so funny that i've looked at that picture a hundred times and just realized that it was shot at the Minni Jam. I remember Marsha sounding fanstic but don't remember you playing a Superpro. Anyway Superpro Landed today and the its a beast! I could not think of a better pair of pickups than this for this guitar. I received this Superpro with Seth Lovers installed. I don't know who changed them out, but I've never played a SP with stock pickups. I don't know that I'd change them back to stock, I like the Seths' in here that much. Marsha is a beast. 18 watt marshall circuit built with a Hammond organ chassis and transformers. 5Y3 rectifier and NOS ax7s' and el84s. Celestion Greenback and Celestion Vintage 10. I built it about 5 years ago maybe longer. I hope you like your Superpro as much as I like mine.
MCChris Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 This reminds a little of 311. Any influence in the band?Very perceptive! The bass player is a huge fan, and I've become one since he turned me on to them.
django49 Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 It would be interesting to hear more about the experiences people have had with SuperPros with swapped pickups.The one I got recently surprised me with (not disclosed in advance) non-stock pickups. The installed pups are Duncan APH-1 (Alnico 2). They are not nearly as "hot" as the stock pickups, but seem more aggressive than Seths (Which I have NOT heard in an SP). I still do not know if they are as good a fit as the Custom/Custom Custom. They are not bad, but not what I bargained for either.I have yet to hear or play a SuperPro that was "bad". But I am curious as to others' experience before I make any changes.
MCChris Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 ^^^^Riffing off of this, I'd encourage anyone who hasn't tried a SP to do so with the stock pickups, if possible. Ideally before trying replacements. The C/CC combo really is a great fit in that particular guitar.
jisham Posted October 9, 2012 Posted October 9, 2012 Yeah, I'm digging the stock pickups big time although I wouldn't refer to them as "hot" -- I just know they sound f'n great.
kizanski Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Riffing off of this, I'd encourage anyone who hasn't tried a SP to do so with the stock pickups, if possible. Ideally before trying replacements. The C/CC combo really is a great fit in that particular guitar.Yeah, I'm digging the stock pickups big time although I wouldn't refer to them as "hot" -- I just know they sound f'n great.`F**king magic!
bubs_42 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I had not tried the Custom Custom yet. Seems like everytime I buy one it never ends up in a guitar. This time it was in there and sounds great even rolled back. The Custom in the neck in front of an overdriven amp cuts with clarity you can almost flip to the neck pickup and play the bridge parts.
django49 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Lest my comments be misconstrued.....I think the stock pickups are a GREAT match to the SuperPro. I think they sound much more intense in the Monaco Elite (solid body), more balanced in the SP. (And they sound even "more different" in the "plain" Monaco.....The OTHER pickups in the SuperPro I just got (Duncan APH) are more subdued than the C/CC. What confounds me is that they ALSO sound good, but MAYBE not quite as "special". Which makes me wonder if this guitar, just maybe, sounds great with most anything installed(?). Which underscores the merits of the guitar itself.But I would definitely recommend trying one with the stock pickups FIRST. This seems to be one of those cases where the pickup "stats" are misleading. If I understand correctly (I have been wrong before---At least once), the Custom (neck pup on the SP) is most often used (elsewhere) in the BRIDGE position, while the Custom Custom has a higher rating, implying more output. So much for numbers!
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