rugby1970 Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 anybody know of a good one? this is the 6", 5 (or 6 depending who you ask) watt amp model. thanks in advance.
gtone Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 If it were mine, I'd pull the stock speaker and carefully remove the baffle. Then I'd build a new fir plywood floating baffle and fit the largest speaker I could fit into that little cab. 8" opens up a few interesting options, but 10", if you can shoehorn it in, kicks the door down on a lot of even better options. You get a lot more punch, improved low end response and an overall bigger amp sound out of it in spite of a fairly small cab. The only Champ I ever had was fitted with a Weber Blue Pup 10" - really chimey, punchy and anything but small sounding driver with a tight, full bottom end. What's more, I could boost or drive the amp really hard without it getting overly wooly, something you can't really do with small speaker with a light paper cone and tiny magnet. This was in a 4W 5F1 Champ, btw...
crunchee Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Are you sure that it's a 6 inch speaker? The only 70's era Fender Champs that I know of used a 8 inch speaker, 4 Ohm as stock. I've heard good things about the 8 inch, 4 Ohm WGS speaker.
randelli Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 You can barely fit a 10" speaker in the champ. I have a Weber gold alnico in mine. I also like WGS speakers a lot and that video is a great representation.
Ting Ho Dung Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 If it were mine, I'd pull the stock speaker and carefully remove the baffle. Then I'd build a new fir plywood floating baffle and fit the largest speaker I could fit into that little cab. 8" opens up a few interesting options, but 10", if you can shoehorn it in, kicks the door down on a lot of even better options. You get a lot more punch, improved low end response and an overall bigger amp sound out of it in spite of a fairly small cab. The only Champ I ever had was fitted with a Weber Blue Pup 10" - really chimey, punchy and anything but small sounding driver with a tight, full bottom end. What's more, I could boost or drive the amp really hard without it getting overly wooly, something you can't really do with small speaker with a light paper cone and tiny magnet. This was in a 4W 5F1 Champ, btw...I have a friend who did something similar. But to add to it, he also changed the grill cloth. He said the stock cloth cut a lot of sound and tone. He also retubed it with JJs. I can call him for the particulars if you are interested.
BubbaVO Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 A vintage Fender Champ with a blown speaker. Shoot, it's useless now. Out of the goodness of my heart, I'll take it off your hands.
Jakeboy Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Agree 100% on the 10" speaker....a Champ positively comes alive with a larger speaker. Weepers are great, even if you stick with a stock 8. I have a 5f1 tweed Champ with a 12 (bigger cab) and what a great recording and jamming amp it is.One last thing. Champs love alnico drivers.
Ting Ho Dung Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 disregard my comment. My friend bought a new one and replaced the cloth. Not a vintage one. Didn't sleep well last night.
tomteriffic Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 +1 for replacing the baffle board and wedging a 10" if you can. An Eminence Rgin' Cajun or Copperhead will open the amp up much better, extend the low end and give you lots more clean headroom.
Greg G Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 My 1 x 12 Champ experiment. Head shell was made by David Allen. Inexpensive speaker cabinet. Speaker was cheap on eBay, a used Weber 12F100-T 3.2 ohm 15 watt. I don't use it as often since I got a Swart STR Tweed. I will soon return the amp to stock minus the speaker. I'll return the chassis to the original cabinet and put a decent 8" replacement speaker in it.
hamerican gigolo Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 WGS G8C. I installed one in my '67 BFVC. It sounds amazing. A 10 " might be better but I personallydon't like to alter the original intent of the amp. But,to each his own.
Stokesdead Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I disagree on the 10" replacement. The beauty of those 8" speakers for me is how well they take a mic, even just a sm57. It just sounds huge. Maybe its easier for the mic to pic up the details with less air being pushed, I don't know, but there is a reason all those classic recordings used Champs. As far as a replacement goes I really like the Kendrick black frame that is in my Vibro Champ. It's slightly less "Fendery" considering it has a ceramic magnet but for me the added brightness and crunch works beautifully.
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