django49 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Posted February 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, tweed said: Would you know if the specs differ much from the newer version Dolphins ? As I understand it, the specs are otherwise exactly the same. The original version was sold primarily, but not exclusively, in Europe. This one is very much the same, inc the pickups, as my "Numero Uno" EXCEPT it has a rosewood board rather than ebony. I do not believe that they currently offer any guitars in the original headstock version, at least in their regular models. Anything is possible on a custom order, I suppose. Such as the one I have with a carved and bookmatched Brazilian Rosewood top. Def NOT a standard thing!
Travis Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 For some reason, I thought EBMM had a copyright/patent on the 4+2 headstock. No clue if that’s only for the US market or if that extends to international manufacture...
kizanski Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Travis said: For some reason, I thought EBMM had a copyright/patent on the 4+2 headstock. No clue if that’s only for the US market or if that extends to international manufacture... Dave Wintz (Robin/Rio) has a copyright on dolphin inlays, but Huber has done those too - lol
django49 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Posted February 8, 2021 Once upon a time, Nik did not openly ship guitars with Dolphins (how much difference can most tell from the Orca inlays) to the USA, apparently due to the Robin rights. Somehow or another. a huge number still showed up here anyway. For example, the Redwood model I took delivery on about 7-8 years ago came with the dolphin inlay at the 12th fret. (The Redwood is essentially a chambered Dolphin with redwood top). I guess if they were not openly marketed...... As best I can tell, they have been readily available for sale here for several years now. I have not kept up on the stop/start on Robin guitars, but perhaps their suspension of building was a factor. Just one example.....
kizanski Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, django49 said: I have not kept up on the stop/start on Robin guitars, but perhaps their suspension of building was a factor. I don't think that has anything to do with it. From my discussions with Dave, it's more a factor of him not objecting to it as sternly as he had done in the past. There's also an example or two of McInturffs with dolphin inlays used with Dave's permission.
ArnieZ Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 FWIW ( not much, I know). Orcas are dolphins,same family, not whales arniez
django49 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Posted February 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, ArnieZ said: FWIW ( not much, I know). Orcas are dolphins,same family, not whales arniez All else equal, I WOULD take a whale, as in Blue Whale. A bit gaudy, like a PRS Dragon, and with solid Brazilian neck......But for $15k, not so much on my shopping list..... And, of course, blue guitars DO sound better.....
django49 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Posted February 10, 2021 On again, off again, now back on again. Looks like the Orca 59 WILL, in fact, be heading out shortly. So, should I now advance a slightly different sort of singlecut? Let me play it a bit and get back to y'all.......as someone once said, the Redwood (a variation on the Dolphin) has the "Voice of the Angels". I reckon I will keep the one in korina, even though the top is somewhat less pretty. And I DO like the "snakewood package" on this one. Decisions, decisions........
Travis Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, django49 said: On again, off again, now back on again. Looks like the Orca 59 WILL, in fact, be heading out shortly. So, should I now advance a slightly different sort of singlecut? Let me play it a bit and get back to y'all.......as someone once said, the Redwood (a variation on the Dolphin) has the "Voice of the Angels". I reckon I will keep the one in korina, even though the top is somewhat less pretty. And I DO like the "snakewood package" on this one. Decisions, decisions........ Oh god... that’s gorgeous...
django49 Posted February 18, 2021 Author Posted February 18, 2021 Okay, so....Moving on...... I posted a picture above of a sort of a clone of the Huber Orca. It is a Frank Hartung Sephir. Also based in Germany, Frank gives up nothing (IMO) to Nik. His work is consistently stellar. Whereas Nik has added to his crew of merry men, and has now shipped well over 3000 guitars, Frank is essentially a one man show with total production about 1/10 of Nik's. I have had my hands on over 2 dozen Huber guitars, about 8 Hartungs. While less well known than Hubers, they give up nothing in the way of quality or tone. IMO, the Hartungs have a bit more "personality" than the Hubers, The Sephir is very much the "refined Les Paul" model. Unlike the Orca 59, it has the Gibson scale (not 25"). It is slighter lighter and more comfortable. Like the Orca 59 and the PRS Private Stock above, it has great woods and flamed maple binding on the neck. Also the expanded binding on the headstock. Unlike his signature Embrace model, it has the more traditional type headstock. I could not resist when this one popped up recently. They do not appear often. I am not disappointed in it at all, but I DO have the other one which is only 2 serial numbers off this one. What is different about this one? It has been upgraded with Tone Specifics Punch pickups. The original 4 wire Ray Gerold pickups are in the case). They give it a bit "bigger" sound than stock, but do not have the coil split. If you check the pickups online, they are quoted at $600 per set. Also, it has the OHSC, certificate and a DVD showing the build. With as little as I am playing these days. I really should take my loss and move on.... Offered for $3800 (net to me) in the CONUS without the Gerolds. Add $200 to get the Gerold pickups as well.......IMO, they are superb pickups on their own, not to mention hard to find without buying a high end guitar......I cannot recall the last time I saw a pair offered for sale in the USA. Now about that Redwood.......
django49 Posted February 18, 2021 Author Posted February 18, 2021 So, here is the deal with the Redwood......I love everything about this guitar and the model in general. But I am still trying to unwind some past excesses. The Redwood is a variation on the Huber Dolphin. Essentially the same longer scale guitar, EXCEPT it is chambered (lighter weight) and has a redwood top. It has the same (Vin) neck pickup, but a "Custom" Haussel bridge which is wound to more fully compliment the partially hollow design. FWIW, my first Redwood had a Haussel 1959 bridge, a slightly hotter pickup. I did not think it suited the guitar nearly as well as the Custom. The softer wood top, the pickups, build and the lighter weight, give the guitar a sound I would describe as "airier" that the Dolphin. I think it was BCR Greg that called it "the voice of the angels". To me, that fits. FWIW, the Redwood is featured in the book "365 Guitar Amps and Effects You Must Play". And well deserved. You may have noted that I have a strong yen for redwood, esp with korina and a longer scale. My CO Shishkov and CO Hartung both were ordered with that combination. But, sometimes you can have too much of a good thing. In this case, way more than I can find time to play. Anyway, I do also have the same guitar with korina body and neck. It has not nearly as good looking a top, does not have the "snakewood package upgrade" (which I love) and is a bit lighter. But it is marginally better (to my hands and ears). (To further show my bad habits, I also have one with a few variations.....Solid Brazilian neck, hard to find RED (not brown) top. That one is not necessarily "better" but is more or less irreplaceable, so.....) This one is in excellent condition save for one small thing.......One pickup cover has a mark that looks like it was exposed to heat or something. Let me see if that shows up in my picture. (Neck pickup). This does not seem to have any impact other than the visual. I am asking $4100 (net to me) CONUS. FWIW, there are three offered on Reverb currently (two used) for between $7k+ to over $9k. Questions? ETA.....I am holding a large deposit on this one and expecting the balance in the near future. The buyer visited, played it, and concurred with my opinion that it is like no other he has ever played. I will update if anything changes.
Travis Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, django49 said: So, here is the deal with the Redwood......I love everything about this guitar and the model in general. But I am still trying to unwind some past excesses. The Redwood is a variation on the Huber Dolphin. Essentially the same longer scale guitar, EXCEPT it is chambered (lighter weight) and has a redwood top. It has the same (Vin) neck pickup, but a "Custom" Haussel bridge which is wound to more fully compliment the partially hollow design. FWIW, my first Redwood had a Haussel 1959 bridge, a slightly hotter pickup. I did not think it suited the guitar nearly as well as the Custom. The softer wood top, the pickups, build and the lighter weight, give the guitar a sound I would describe as "airier" that the Dolphin. I think it was BCR Greg that called it "the voice of the angels". To me, that fits. FWIW, the Redwood is featured in the book "365 Guitar Amps and Effects You Must Play". And well deserved. You may have noted that I have a strong yen for redwood, esp with korina and a longer scale. My CO Shishkov and CO Hartung both were ordered with that combination. But, sometimes you can have too much of a good thing. In this case, way more than I can find time to play. Anyway, I do also have the same guitar with korina body and neck. It has not nearly as good looking a top, does not have the "snakewood package upgrade" (which I love) and is a bit lighter. But it is marginally better (to my hands and ears). (To further show my bad habits, I also have one with a few variations.....Solid Brazilian neck, hard to find RED (not brown) top. That one is not necessarily "better" but is more or less irreplaceable, so.....) This one is in excellent condition save for one small thing.......One pickup cover has a mark that looks like it was exposed to heat or something. Let me see if that shows up in my picture. (Neck pickup). This does not seem to have any impact other than the visual. I am asking $4100 (net to me) CONUS. FWIW, there are three offered on Reverb currently (two used) for between $7k+ to over $9k. Questions?
kizanski Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 Insane deal on that Redwood. Easily the baddest, most affordable Redwood in the world. And I don't think I'm overstating.
Pieman Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 I think you might mean trademark rather than patent? I think it is easier to defend a challenge based on an abandoned trademark, i.e. the trademark owner gave up its rights because it was no longer producing the related product. Maybe an IP lawyer on the board can clarify.
currypowder Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 Good lord, Don. You know I wish I could pull the trigger on that Redwood. But given that I just grabbed the Orca '59, I'm tapped out. Anyone need a partially damaged liver? Seriously, if one or two thing move and this is available, you know I'll be back. But I honestly doubt it will be.
django49 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 Gonna do a one month later bump on the Redwood on the occasion of posting it locally. As of this morning, there are FOUR posted on Reverb, the cheapest being $6500. IMO, this one compares more than favorably, never mind the price....... BTW, the PRS Private Stock shown above has left the building. The other one is near identical and I may get around to selling it too......
Dutchman Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 I think the Title"Better Than Average" is a huge understatement! I'm in complete agreement with Kiz, those are potentially BOP guitars!! BOP = Best On Planet
django49 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Posted April 17, 2021 A belated update. Had a visitor from out-of-state today. He picked up the Myka that he had committed to earlier and had time to plug in several others and swap tales over 4 hours or so. Had a bit of extra cash, so he left a hefty down payment on the Huber Redwood. I have a hunch he might also try to pry my extra Rietbergen from my hands on his next visit......Seems that made him want to get back home and sell his mid-60s ES-335. It is a sickness, I tell you........
django49 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Posted May 7, 2021 For now, there is a hold on the tricked out Huber Dolphin II. Remains to be seen if the deal is completed.
django49 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Posted May 17, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 10:46 AM, django49 said: Gonna do a one month later bump on the Redwood on the occasion of posting it locally. As of this morning, there are FOUR posted on Reverb, the cheapest being $6500. IMO, this one compares more than favorably, never mind the price....... BTW, the PRS Private Stock shown above has left the building. The other one is near identical and I may get around to selling it too...... Just looking back through the post. Reckon I SHOULD move this one too. Near identical specs to the one Private Stock already sold, except for the inclusion of an extra set of pickups with this one.....Bare Knuckle Stormy Mondays are mounted (sounding pretty much like you know who, IMO). Original 57/08s in the case. Mammoth ivory inlays, African ribbon mahogany body. I am awaiting further word from two possibly interested parties. If that (they) do not want to proceed, I will circle back and post it as, officially, available and list a price.
django49 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Posted June 13, 2021 Status check. I have not sold the OTHER Private Stock "Les Paul Killer" (directly above). I am going to now officially offer it for sale. Let me say $4900 shipped (CONUS, add payment fees if desired). That will include the extra set of pickups and the extra vintage style wiring harness. (Plus the Private Stock certificate and other case candy) In the meantime, I thought I had posted the PRS korina/ebony 594. Maybe I forgot to do that.....I know I was talking to someone here about it. In any event, that just got sold and is shipping out on Monday. That will make ten sold in 2021, with someone visiting next week about one or two others. At least I feel like I am moving in the right direction.....But I can still stand to lighten up a few more notches. I have also been going through other items (non musical gear) that have sat in boxes for way too long. Gradually giving away a lot of stuff. After the family paws through it, I suppose Goodwill will get a carload of whatever is left....
spanky Posted June 13, 2021 Posted June 13, 2021 If I had it, my wife would probably let me hang that redwood one on the wall in the living room instead of staying in my man cave. That is saying something, it is that beautiful!
django49 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Posted June 13, 2021 5 hours ago, spanky said: If I had it, my wife would probably let me hang that redwood one on the wall in the living room instead of staying in my man cave. That is saying something, it is that beautiful! It is a beauty for sure. I suppose I have dropped the hint more than once that I love redwood guitars (such as my Shishkov) for both looks and tone. I think the Huber would look great as "wall art". For my personal opinion, though, here is the one I would hang on the wall for display......
django49 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Posted September 26, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 6:34 PM, django49 said: Status check. I have not sold the OTHER Private Stock "Les Paul Killer" (directly above). I am going to now officially offer it for sale. Let me say $4900 shipped (CONUS, add payment fees if desired). That will include the extra set of pickups and the extra vintage style wiring harness. (Plus the Private Stock certificate and other case candy) In the meantime, I thought I had posted the PRS korina/ebony 594. Maybe I forgot to do that.....I know I was talking to someone here about it. In any event, that just got sold and is shipping out on Monday. That will make ten sold in 2021, with someone visiting next week about one or two others. At least I feel like I am moving in the right direction.....But I can still stand to lighten up a few more notches. I have also been going through other items (non musical gear) that have sat in boxes for way too long. Gradually giving away a lot of stuff. After the family paws through it, I suppose Goodwill will get a carload of whatever is left.... Strange how life goes. Just posted this one (finally) on the local CL yesterday. Got a call this morning from the same guy that bought my other one from the same short run. Guess I must have priced it right or something. In any case, is nothing goes sideways, I reckon he will be picking it up on Tuesday. In the meantime, I did also post one other singlecut (of sorts) the solid BRW George Harrison Tele replica. As well as a doublecut Ronin Mirari, a recent flavor of the month. Let me see if I can dig them up. I would certainly sell for much less here than my asking prices on CL. Because we all know how that works. Would like to net in the low 4s and not take TOO huge a loss. For starters, say $4200 each, net to me. https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/msg/d/battle-ground-george-harrison-brazilian/7385538122.html https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/msg/d/battle-ground-ronin-mirari-guitar/7376626220.html Still trying to make up my mind on the Rietbergen(s). I do NOT need both the "worklng man's" TSB version and the way over the top "Prototype". The latter is (IMO) the best guitar I have ever played. But also, by far, the most expensive. So, do I just keep it and play the snot out of it? Or keep the 90% as good one that cost half as much and does not remind me of the stupid price tag? Called into question when someone visited from out of state, chanced to pick up the "lesser one" and immediately offered a fairly high price. I very reluctantly agreed but (saved by the bell) he swung back down from Seattle without telling me and we failed to make connections before he headed back to AZ a week later. Any opinions on which to keep? I am NOT entering the redwood topped on into the equation.
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