BCR Greg Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 One of 6 made in 1959 with white plastic, this Flying V weighs almost nothing, has THE neck, and is available at a great price. Owned by a good customer for the past 10 years. Removed Bigsby, with the screw holes filled using korina from under the guard. The whole guitar was oversprayed at the time, the original serial number is intact, and the later clearcoat has checked a good bit. The original tuners have "shrunken button disease", so I put Gotoh replica tuners on so that it can be enjoyed. The PAFs are GODLIKE. I have owned and played several of these, and this one blows my mind. If my kids didn't need educations and food, I would have struck a deal for this guitar. Take a look..... AND it's Butcher approved! We are selling the guitar for the owner, at the very nice price of $85k, down from the $97k asking price before Christmas. These were going for a quarter mil a year ago, and you would not need to be afraid to actually PLAY this guitar. Contact me directly for more information.
santellavision Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 $85,000. huh? Let's see, that's TreeFiddy x 243. Nope, can't afford it. haha.
ecnal Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 You might want to check the price you have it listed for on your site.
Guest pirateflynn Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 This IS a legitimate for sale ad, even though the amount seems out of reach for most of us, we welcome Greg's ad and thank him for sharing such a rare piece. Tongue in cheek humor is cool !
ecnal Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 This IS a legitimate for sale ad, even though the amount seems out of reach for most of us, we welcome Greg's ad and thank him for sharing such a rare piece. Tongue in cheek humor is cool !I hope my earlier post wasn't confusing- the guitar is listed at $8500 on the BCR site. I thought about calling, accepting the offer, and letting the lawyers fight it out.
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I played it...briefly..that was enough. My retirement fund/marriage/house at ski resort was in dire jeopardy at that time. When Greg fired this up through one of the new Marshalls, I wanted to cry. LOL!!!Sick sick sick sick sick
Pieman Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 How do you plan on handling shipping if the buyer doesn't show up in his/her Porsche? The thought of that in transit makes me shudder.Thanks for sharing the photos.
santellavision Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I really surprised you still have it. I would have thought that some rich musician or movie celebrity would have snatched it up already. Like Keifer Sutherland or even the dude who plays 'House'.
BCR Greg Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 The hell with me, BUTCHER knows his stuff!That grin is rarely seen.
Pieman Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Greg: Just curious - - is there a purchase agreement with this where the seller states he has clear title and indemnifies against any claims that might arise later? I have heard quite a few stories about famous stolen guitars that pop up later and the original owner tries to reclaim it. Does anybody know if Mandolin Bros or Gruhn offer this on any or all high-ticket items? Heck, my first house cost less and that came with a title warranty.BTW, how many of these were made?Thanks. Hope no offense is taken.
mirrorimij Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I think the shipping total for 1958 and 1959 is 97 or 98 (I have one book that says 97, another that says 98).
BCR Greg Posted March 3, 2009 Author Posted March 3, 2009 This guitar has never been stolen.81 made in 195817 in 1959 6 with white plastic.
lockjawnight Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 I will have to say (only SOMEWHAT tongue in cheek) that your asking price is only slightly higher than Gibsons for the new ones. Gibby seems to think that if they make them "just like" them then they should cost nearly as much. 8400 for a new Korina '58 Explorer? Madness.Hell, A new masterbuilt Fender CS '72 Strat costs MORE than the real thing.I think I'd want a title search/insurance too.... however after thoughtful consideration I'm probably not in the market so...........ignore the tile search part I guess.So, what is one that hasn't had the repairs worth out of curiosity?Good luck. Sweet guitar.
serial Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 That settles it-all this korina Vee porn-my korina Vector with Gregwinds is coming out with me tonight, dammit!
mirrorimij Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 The Hamer korina Vector was spec'd from Rick Nielsen's 58 and 59 (seen on pages 50 and 51 of "Guitars of the Stars"). Even those two guitars had some differences between them. Can any of you lucky bastages that have held Greg's 59 in your hand tell me the differences between it and a recent issue Hamer. I know the Gibson should be a one piece neck with the peghead ears glued on an angle. I know things like tuners, pickups, dot size and spacing, etc will be different. I am asking about the big details (body shape, peghead shape, body thickness, pickup spacing, control layout spacing, placement of the rubber skid pad, etc). Any pictures of the BCR V sans pickguard? I would love to know if the neck tenon extends beyond the neck pickup route (it does not on a Vector). Also, Elderly instruments had an original Gibson V that had a spline joining the two body pieces in the crotch of the V. It was the only one I've ever seen with a spline and I think it was purchased from someone associated with the case manufacturer. Does this 59 have that? There are a few Hamers built after the original run of 72 that have an exposed spline.Also, IIRC Rick's 58 had a shim at the heel of the neck. I don't know if that was standard ( I didn't think it was on the original korina Vee's Larry Henrickson owned). I couldn't tell if Rick's 59 had one because the finish was opaque. Does the BCR 59 have the shim?
serial Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 The Hamer korina Vector was spec'd from Rick Nielsen's 58 and 59 (seen on pages 50 and 51 of "Guitars of the Stars"). Even those two guitars had some differences between them. Can any of you lucky bastages that have held Greg's 59 in your hand tell me the differences between it and a recent issue Hamer. I know the Gibson should be a one piece neck with the peghead ears glued on an angle. I know things like tuners, pickups, dot size and spacing, etc will be different. I am asking about the big details (body shape, peghead shape, body thickness, pickup spacing, control layout spacing, placement of the rubber skid pad, etc). Any pictures of the BCR V sans pickguard? I would love to know if the neck tenon extends beyond the neck pickup route (it does not on a Vector). Also, Elderly instruments had an original Gibson V that had a spline joining the two body pieces in the crotch of the V. It was the only one I've ever seen with a spline and I think it was purchased from someone associated with the case manufacturer. Does this 59 have that? There are a few Hamers built after the original run of 72 that have an exposed spline.Also, IIRC Rick's 58 had a shim at the heel of the neck. I don't know if that was standard ( I didn't think it was on the original korina Vee's Larry Henrickson owned). I couldn't tell if Rick's 59 had one because the finish was opaque. Does the BCR 59 have the shim?My Hamer Vee has the spline at the crotch of the vee. My impressions were that the Hamer was lighter in weight, body maybe a shade thicker, or at least pretty close. The Hamer body looks a slight bit "rounder/fuller" too, but again, they're pretty close. The pickups on the Hamer are closer together (the Vector has the "newer" Hamer pickup spacing, the 59 is spaced like on old four digit Standards). I thought that the 59 had a "stiffer" feel to it-I didn't A/B them in the same room, but it kind of felt from muscle memory like the 59 had a straighter neck angle than the Hamer. The Hamer almost plays itself and is pretty well dimed in playing-wise. I didn't play the 59 amplified. This is by no means a scientific comparison, but I play my Vector very regularly, so I'm pretty used to the feel. Necks were similar-the Hamer a little chunkier. The 59 was a wonderful guitar, but I am also very partial to the Hamer-I think it might just be the best Hamer I've ever owned and I've owned a bunch, so maybe the comparison isn't completely fair.
edgar_allan_poe Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 but I am also very partial to the Hamer-I think it might just be the best Hamer I've ever owned and I've owned a bunch, so maybe the comparison isn't completely fairIf that is my former V, I would completely agree with this statement.Steve...you had to hear that 59 through the Marshall. Absolutely mind blowing.
lockjawnight Posted March 6, 2009 Posted March 6, 2009 I love those guitars man, love them. And don't get my comment on the Gibby wrong...I'm actually curiuos about thr guitar which is seperate from my contempt of gibsons current philosophy.
BCR Greg Posted March 6, 2009 Author Posted March 6, 2009 This guitar is super light, super resonant, has a big ass neck and I WANT TO KEEP IT. If I could get my kids to forget food and college......
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