You got that right! I *STILL* want a Standard after three failed attempts with one. My experience has been one of beautiful thick midrange with a whole lot of ass underneath, all without mud. Ken called 0150 smoky once, and it made me want to hear it. We all know full well how I feel about Devnor's...when he typed "Feynman's Future Standard" I think my heart skipped a beat. Just sounded good... Hell, I bought the LOTT Standard twice, and I want it again. I've not played a Les Paul that seemed able to become that full sounding without also adding a bit of undesired mush to the tone, but I haven't played many Les Pauls. My favorite Les Paul belongs to a good friend of mine, and it sounds wonderful and "right" to me for a Les Paul, but I still would take the LOTT Standard back any day over that one, even knowing that I have to work to deal with that body shape. "Siren" sounds about right - I don't even know why I want one - I honestly think the shape is goofy looking. But...but....but.... This is interesting thread timing, as just last week I started thinking of how to acquire another. I never learn.