Really? Do tell.

[crunchee]

“I have a thing for quality control” Bon Jovi guitarist Phil X on why he refused to play Gibsons for many years

Like a lot of players didn't know this already.     Does this mean we should all run out and buy a new Gibson now?     I think I'm gonna sit back and watch what happens in the New Year first.  

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by crunchee

[cmatthes]

I’ve played a bunch of newer (Post-Henry) Gibsons.

They’re WAY more consistent and I honestly don’t have a bad thing to say about any that I’ve played alert from the prices on some of them border on idiotic.

I think their production stuff is on par (or damned close to it) with the ‘87-‘95 era stuff.

[RobB]

I purchased a 2019 R0 from a member here. Nicest LP I’ve EVER owned (and I’ve owned many). 

Yeah, I said that. Deal with it. 

[Steve Haynie]

7 hours ago, cmatthes said:

I’ve played a bunch of newer (Post-Henry) Gibsons.

They’re WAY more consistent and I honestly don’t have a bad thing to say about any that I’ve played alert from the prices on some of them border on idiotic.

I think their production stuff is on par (or damned close to it) with the ‘87-‘95 era stuff.

The 90's Gibsons were crap.  My 1992 Les Paul left the factory with problems.  The store where I worked had to send back eight out of 18 from one year's order.  Another store in the area sent back 12 out of 24.  The ones that were kept still had problems. 

[DaveH]

My 92 Classic (Les Paul Model) is awesome, as is my 96 61 RI SG.

[velorush]

I feel like I got in just before the elevator door shut (and went up). I found my next-to-new '19 50's Standard on Reverb for what I thought was a great price. Six months later Gibson hiked the prices on the new ones by around $500, driving the used prices up, as well.

I really like it. I wouldn't know if it were poor quality having never owned a Lester before, but the finish looks great, it plays great, sounds great, and this is one of the few guitars I've ever owned that I wasn't tempted to change the pickups. The only mod I've made is changing it over to 50's wiring.

The local shop just down the street has a few of the newer ones and they all seem to be well-made. By that I mean they all play great (after a setup), and the finishes are really nice. He had a Slash model that was particularly nice (light, too). 

[cmatthes]

1 hour ago, Steve Haynie said:

The 90's Gibsons were crap.  My 1992 Les Paul left the factory with problems.  The store where I worked had to send back eight out of 18 from one year's order.  Another store in the area sent back 12 out of 24.  The ones that were kept still had problems. 

I’ve owned tons from that era and played far more, and with the exception of a 40th Anniversary Les Paul, all were stellar.

[Hackubus]

I'm with Cmatthes on this one.  The 87-95 era was A Second Golden Age in my book, yeah...I'll die on that hill too 😆. 

Except for the 1991 TV Yellow 30th Annie LP/SG Custom.  The one I had was a stinker.  Albeit, a dang cool looking stinker. 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Hackubus

[Steve Haynie]

[alantig]

2 hours ago, Steve Haynie said:

And Milli Vanilli had a #1 song, so, let's not just blindly trust the masses.

[velorush]

5 hours ago, alantig said:

And Milli Vanilli had a #1 song, so, let's not just blindly trust the masses.

Don't care who sang it (or didn't), it was waaaay better than "We Didn't Start the Fire!"

[scottcald]

5 hours ago, alantig said:

And Milli Vanilli had a #1 song, so, let's not just blindly trust the masses.

Those destruction songs of terrible rain and possible arson aren't getting things done.  

Some were working hard and building a city on rock and roll.  🤣

My two cents is I had a couple of Gibsons, they looked cool, but each had its own problems.  I can get those sounds with other stuff.   If others love 'em, great, have at it. 

[Disturber]

23 hours ago, Steve Haynie said:

The 90's Gibsons were crap.  My 1992 Les Paul left the factory with problems.  The store where I worked had to send back eight out of 18 from one year's order.  Another store in the area sent back 12 out of 24.  The ones that were kept still had problems. 

 

23 hours ago, DaveH said:

My 92 Classic (Les Paul Model) is awesome, as is my 96 61 RI SG.

 

22 hours ago, cmatthes said:

I’ve owned tons from that era and played far more, and with the exception of a 40th Anniversary Les Paul, all were stellar.

My 1991 Classic is one hell of a Les Paul. So was my friends early 90s black Standard. He sold it, but I still dream of that guitar.

Then again, none of them can touch my '59 replica that I bought this year, built by a Swedish builder in conjuction with Tom Bartlett.

[cmatthes]

On 12/28/2024 at 8:49 AM, Disturber said:

So was my friends early 90s black Standard. He sold it, but I still dream of that guitar.

Funny you had that experience as well.  Two guitars that have haunted me that I passed on for one stupid reason or another were a '90 and a '91 Black Les Paul Standard that I played in two of my local shops right off the rack.  I passed on the first one because I wanted a P-90 Goldtop '56 Reissue more, and the second I passed on to buy a Black 40th Anniversary LP that I honestly disliked more the longer I owned it.   I also felt weird having so many black guitars at once:  A '78 Black LP Deluxe, a Jetglo 360/12, and a Black RG-550, and the aforementioned 40th Anniversary LP - I thought I needed to diversify!  I have none of them now, but definitely would have kept one of those Standards!