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Mick Jaggers, Robert Plant, Freddie Mercury, Paul Rodgers (if you're Poe), etc... In your opinion, where does Roger Daltrey fit in among the UK rock singer greats?

-Austin

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Mick Jagger can't sing. Really. He's the worst on your list.

Paul Rodgers is good, but the average person probably couldn't name a band he was in.

Freddy Mercury is the most capable, and probably the best overall.

Robert Plant created a new style, but his pitch wasn't that great at times, and the histrionics get a little tiresome.

Daltry is solid, with working class roots, kind of like the Bruce Springsteen of the UK.

I'd say Daltry is #2 or #3 on the list, after Mercury (#1) and maybe Plant (#2).

But you should have included David Coverdale. At his current age (57), he can sing as well or better than anyone on the list who is still alive.

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But you should have included David Coverdale. At his current age (57), he can sing as well or better than anyone on the list who is still alive.

Yeah, that's why I put "etc..." on there. I agree that Mick Jagger can't sing; I supposed I should have called this the best "front men" Mick Jagger is undeniably great in a David Lee Roth sort of way :lol: There's always been something borderline-annoying about Roger Plants voice in Led Zep to me (I think it got better with age?). Freddie Mercury was undeniably the best singer among them all IMO, but I think I probably like the Who's material most of all the groups. In terms of front men though, I think Daltrey gets lost a bit because of Keith Moon and Pete Townshend.

-Austin

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I think Van Morrison should be at the top - or darned close. Sting is (was?) a great stylist too. If you include women I'd have to throw Amy Winehouse on the list (even though she sings "American.") Marianne Faithful is also very cool.

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Well, I'm a huuuuuuuge Sting fan, but I think of him as pop, not rock. Like Van Morrison too, but he's more a r&b guy to me. Both great!

-Austin

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What? No Roger Waters or Ozzy? :lol:

I'd add Bowie to the list, but not above most already mentioned. Jon Anderson definitely, but only if we're counting prog rock as rock. I've always like Ian Hunter as well for a frontman/showman, but well below "the list" in regards to vocals.

That all being sed, three cheers and raise a beer to Mr. Stewart. Rod or Al... luv 'em both. OK, Al is from Scotland, and not exactly rock, but close enough to get honorable mention, yeah? :lol:

I would agree overall - Mercury at the top, Gillan for me is #2. Plant #3...

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Mick Jagger can't sing. Really. He's the worst on your list.

I consider Mick certainly to not have a great voice in the traditional sense. But one thing about Mick is that he really knows how to deliver great vocal performances. It took me years to finally view him this way, in fact it's only recently that I look at him as something other than a guy with a bad voice who happens to have the advantage of singing strong material. But he's more than that, he really can deliver a tune.

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And ya'll forgot David Bowie! He shares the #1 spot with Freddie in my book.

I'll have Daltry clearly in the top 10, put probably in the lower 5

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Mick Jagger can't sing. Really. He's the worst on your list.

Paul Rodgers is good, but the average person probably couldn't name a band he was in.

Freddy Mercury is the most capable, and probably the best overall.

Robert Plant created a new style, but his pitch wasn't that great at times, and the histrionics get a little tiresome.

Daltry is solid, with working class roots, kind of like the Bruce Springsteen of the UK.

I'd say Daltry is #2 or #3 on the list, after Mercury (#1) and maybe Plant (#2).

But you should have included David Coverdale. At his current age (57), he can sing as well or better than anyone on the list who is still alive.

Wow...Thanks Mike. You saved me a lot of typing.

Although I think you're giving Springsteen a lot of undue credit for vocal ability, mentioning him with Daltrey.

He belongs with Jagger in the "can't sing" category, in my opinion.

As for the original question, there's only one guy that could stand out in front of the mayhem and raw, almost steroid enhanced ROWK that was The Who, and that man is Roger Daltrey.

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If you want to widen the field to include singers with instruments, then John L. and Paul M. have got to be up there on the list.

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Paul Rodgers is good, but the average person probably couldn't name a band he was in.

I don't agree with that. Bad Company was pretty huge in the '70s.

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Wow...Thanks Mike. You saved me a lot of typing.

Although I think you're giving Springsteen a lot of undue credit for vocal ability, mentioning him with Daltrey.

He belongs with Jagger in the "can't sing" category, in my opinion.

As for the original question, there's only one guy that could stand out in front of the mayhem and raw, almost steroid enhanced ROWK that was The Who, and that man is Roger Daltrey.

Damn, Daltry and Springsteen, the old boss and the new boss, BUT...not the same not even close. You are correct in your assessment Mr.Kiz.

I never *got* Springteen... or Jagger for that matter.

Daltry, the man who laid down the all time scream in rock history should not be mentioned in the same breath as the jut jaw from Jersey.

Daltry belongs in the top 5 of any list of top rock frontmen.

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Lots of great additions (obviously my list was just partial and off the top of my head). I thought about including the Beatles, but didn't, because, to me, there's British rock n roll and there's the Beatles. They covered so much ground during their existence, that I tend to see them as their on thing, apart from the rest of UK rock. At any rate, if I was going to add in the Beatles, I'd put in McCartney, but not Lennon.

EDIT: No, now that I think about it, Lennon too.

-Austin

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Daltrey is a definite top 5 in my book. Plant and Mercury also make my top list.

I've got to add Phil Lynott though. That guy was pretty powerful overall.

No love for Lennon/McCartney?

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I was hoping someone would mention Lynott; I'm not really familiar with enough of TL's stuff to make an educated endorsement, but what I've heard I like. He has a nice swagger to his vocal delivery.

-Austin

cmatthes Veteran HFCer

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Justin Hawkins? ;)

:D:o :o

(Although to actually SEE the guy live, you'd think he truly believes he's in the top 5! Great performer.)

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No love for Lennon/McCartney?

No, because it's apples and oranges.

If you're talking front men/singers in groups where those singers (most of the time) do not play instruments (even Mercury played a good deal of piano), then Lennon & McCartney are not in the discussion. Instrumentally, they were as integral to the song as they were vocally. It's not a question of them measuring up or not, it's about them being in the category.

If you want to talk about singer/composer/guitar player double barrel attack, then we can always start another thread and put them at the top of the list and go from there.

The Front man, in the Daltrey/Jagger/Plant/Rodgers mold is a specialized talent. Not only that, it is a testament to how KICKASS a band like The Who and Led Zeppelin were, because they were essentially a trio...with a singer.

This "widening of the field" jazz only makes a thread spiral off into a dozen different directions. For instance, had I included a great front man like David Lee Roth in the list, even though he's not British.

I started a thread some time ago about quick "get in, get out" guitar solos. Soon there were examples posted with songs that included TWO four minute guitar solos. Where does it end?

Soon we'll be making a list of hot porn stars and someone will add "...well if you want to widen the field to include chicks with dicks..."

Let's not go there.

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