esquared Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 No affiliationHamer Broadcaster on eBayHas anyone seen this before?Is the price even close to what it is worth? I would like to hear your thoughts.
mirrorimij Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 That one has been on eBay a few times. I think this time its a different seller (and I think the price went up). There was another T51 built for Bill Kaman that was also covered in leather- but I think the other was typical T51 pickup configuration.I'm sure a few HFCr's have some guitars that were once owned by Bill Kaman. I own two- T51 and Daytona prototypes.It would be even cooler if you were a size 12 and could wear those shitkickin' boots onstage along with the guitar.
cmatthes Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 An HFC'er owned that before. Why it is being called a "Broadcaster", I'm not sure - "Esquire", I get. I think the price is a bit high, but I'm not in the market for that one anyway. Not too many people will jump at that one. It's a shame that the boots actually WOULD fit me!
mirrorimij Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 I can't recall. I just tried to search completed listings and came up empty. Does this belong to someone here?
teleman Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time.
esquared Posted December 14, 2009 Author Posted December 14, 2009 I have an absolutely mint T-62 (pictured in my signature), that if I recall correctly the HFC'er that sold it too many said was also built for Bill Kaman (or at least owned by him). I guess what I dont know is if his ownership adds value?I would see some value in a custom leather finish on any guitar and the boots would be a bonus.Maybe I should just look for really nice t-51.
mirrorimij Posted December 14, 2009 Posted December 14, 2009 I think there are a lot of Bill's guitars floating around. Trouble is some of them have changed hands so many times the provenance can't be determined with certainty. Sometimes the serial numbers for his stuff would get notated in the serial number log. Sometimes stuff would get built for other reasons (marketing samples, etc) and eventually end up in Bill's hands. In those cases there probably isn't a record of it in the serial number log. Bill wrote me a funny letter to accompany my guitars. I don't know if it adds any monetary value to my guitars....but, to me, this letter is priceless.
stonge Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time. then sold to Ron's Guitars in Groton, CT who ebayed it to an HFC'er... then it went to UpstateGuitars... then it went to Margateltd. Each time I see it, the price has gone up $1K or doubled. Those must be really nice boots
Taylor Player Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time.A moment of silence for Blue Note...I miss that place.
HamStd Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time. then sold to Ron's Guitars in Groton, CT who ebayed it to an HFC'er... then it went to UpstateGuitars... then it went to Margateltd. Each time I see it, the price has gone up $1K or doubled. Those must be really nice boots I think Jon M. (MC2) owned it before selling it Margateltd. Peter
gorch Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 It's just one of this overvalued guitars. Beware, you've got to wear the boots when playing it. Otherwise the guitar may sound smelly.
cornjulio Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 It's a sick combination. They should have thrown in leather chaps, a hat and maybe a pony.......
mc2 Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time. then sold to Ron's Guitars in Groton, CT who ebayed it to an HFC'er... then it went to UpstateGuitars... then it went to Margateltd. Each time I see it, the price has gone up $1K or doubled. Those must be really nice boots I think Jon M. (MC2) owned it before selling it Margateltd. Peter Yeah, that was mine before it went to Margateltd (a private collector with 1500+ pieces.) A really unique piece IMO. Don't you have the similar one covered in red/black leather, Peter? Regarding Margate listing it as both "Esquire" and "Broadcaster"....I called it an Esquire but the case it came in had a hangtag on the handle that read "Hamer Broadcaster." The quoted info from Bill Kaman in the Margate listing is from what Bill emailed me directly about the guitar. IMO...to a collector, the guitar should be well worth what he's asking...mainly because it is a piece that no regular Joe could even order from Hamer at any price. You'd pretty much have to OWN the company to have the pull to get something like this made. So, $5k is a lot cheaper than buying Hamer...just ask Fender While it was a really cool piece to have, it wasn't something I was actually playing. The boots WERE my size but I don't own a horse to go with them. Plus, suede feels REALLY strange to play against and your arm drags on it. While I seem to have settled on Teles (TLEs and T51s) and Virts as my favorite Hamer six-strings to play, this was not a player for me. It DID play and sound great but I was afraid of getting sweat or spooge on it. So....Margateltd. actually had a rare bass that I had been searching for that had a firm opening bid of $4995. So, we swapped and I've been playing it regularly. Oh...and I almost got in a jam getting rid of this one because it turned out my GF had been stashing her cash and stuff in one of the cowboy boots for the last year, without my knowing. After I had them all packed up, she walked in and said "not another guitar?" I said "No, I sold the suede one with the cowboy boots" and she freaked out, fessed up and I had to unwrap them, so she could look inside. Ironically....after Margetltd got the guitar, he emailed to say "thanks for the wad of cash in the boots." I think he was joking but have been wondering if maybe she missed something. BTW...I'd offered that guitar, along with Andy Summers' Phantom and some other cool stuff here first for a great deal but got no takers, before they got listed elsewhere.
mirrorimij Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Don't you have the similar one covered in red/black leather, Peter? I think the one Peter has came with the very rare matching assless chaps.
cmatthes Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 I think the one Peter has came with the very rare matching assless chaps. I think Peter had those made after he got the guitar, Bob!
MCChris Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 I think the one Peter has came with the very rare matching assless chaps. By their very nature, chaps are assless, so no need to include the word "assless." Carry on .....
cornjulio Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 I think the one Peter has came with the very rare matching assless chaps. By their very nature, chaps are assless, so no need to include the word "assless." Carry on ..... Not only chaps......
specialk Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 That seller has quite a list of other guitars up for sale on ebay. Wow....
HamStd Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Don't you have the similar one covered in red/black leather, Peter? I think the one Peter has came with the very rare matching assless chaps. Jon: I do have the Red/Black leather one with the matching Trace Velocette amp covered with the same material. I believe there was also a Yellow and Black leather covered T51 that had a matching jacket (with the fringe on the arms) done too. I think Bill had that one consigned at the ship up in CT as well. Richard (Margateltd) is a very interesting person that has a pretty amazing collection of pieces. BTW, Chris M., you remember that Worthington Explorer he has, it was the one that sat at Garrett Park guitars for the longest time. Cool guitar, just didn't like that it had a super thin neck on it. Bob-you leave my ass out of this one!!!! Peter
mirrorimij Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Fair enough Peter. Merry XMAS to ya.I don't remember the yellow/black one. Do you (or anyone) have any photos? Maybe that would jog my memory.Did any of these come with the matching gimp mask?
cmatthes Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 BTW, Chris M., you remember that Worthington Explorer he has, it was the one that sat at Garrett Park guitars for the longest time. Cool guitar, just didn't like that it had a super thin neck on it. I recall that one, but thought it was priced at about half of where it is now. Some interesting things there, but is this guy trying to drive up prices on O'Hagans? Nobody wanted them in 1982, much less now! I did get a chuckle out of his description: The CUSTOM SHOP at TERRY C. INTURFF GUITARS, INC. has done a complete set up of this guitar to include:Cleaning all electronics. Cleaning of fret board. String replacement. Neck adjustment. Intonation adjustment. Tremolo mechanism cleaning and adjustment. Tested using a very early MESA BOOGIE amp. Now THAT will appeal to the non-playing collector set! (Seriously, WTF?!? )
mc2 Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Richard (Margateltd) is a very interesting person that has a pretty amazing collection of pieces. Peter Peter... Yeah, I saw a few pics of his guitar room and it looked like the Sam Ash warehouse (or underneath Peter's bed) ...not just 1500+ rare guitars/basses but vintage keyboards, amps, etc. The guy does seem to know his guitar history on his pieces too and has a lot of unusual stuff, in addition to the typical vintage Fender/Gibson/Ric. He told me he actually has a "staff" of several people who maintain and catalog his gear. ...but a word of caution, the guy who packs his guitars did NOT know how to pack. I reamed him out for shipping a rare bass with the case jammed flat against the face of the box (only packing material was under the bottom of the case) and the headstock end of the bass case was dead against the cardboard of the shipping box with no packing material at all. Plus the bass was left to flop around inside the guitar case and tuned to pitch (an 8-string no less.) I was lucky my UPS guy didn't drop in on end of throw anything heavy on the box. I think he rectified the problem after I gve him the heads-up. Overall, he seems to be a pleasant, no BS guy to deal with who is also Hamer-friendly and knows they have value.
Special J Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time.A moment of silence for Blue Note...I miss that place.Me too. I had no idea they had closed. My wife and I were up there earlier in the year and I went to drop in, and...closed. Bummer.
Grimm Pickins Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 I used to frequent there when I lived in Mass, nice (very very nice) guitars - I wasn't so excited about the customer service which was, at best, highly indifferent to my existence (was it Howard who ran that store in it's latter years?). I remember when they were above ground level and affiliated with Jeff who runs Retro-Guitar in Keene - I did a bit of business with them back then (they had an Alembic that I look back and sigh over not buying). Jeff is a great guy, though he has emptied my wallet more times than I care to admit. I was never one to shop with the keeper sneering down their nose at me... although admittedly I was kinda of a patchouli reeking hippie back in the 90s That said, "Howard" (quotes in case I'm wrong) was never rude (nor exceptionally helpful) - unlike the general disease that infests a number of Vermont music stores (Maple Leaf I am looking dead on at you... and the lackluster pile of strings that makes up Blue Mountain over the border in NH). I stick close to home these days (like 5 blocks away) with Musician's Junkyard - a used instrument store with the world's nicest owner (cheats himself too much sometimes, honestly... what a rarity). Eek, I'm grumpy today Dave That guitar and boots was in Blue Note Music in North Hampton, MA for a long, long time. A moment of silence for Blue Note...I miss that place. Me too. I had no idea they had closed. My wife and I were up there earlier in the year and I went to drop in, and...closed. Bummer.
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