Ting Ho Dung Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 The Boat Carve. Does it feel like a strong V? Do you notice it? Is it the most comfy thing like a pillow mattress? I tend to like strong C carves. Would I like a Boat Carve?
Ting Ho Dung Posted August 20, 2014 Author Posted August 20, 2014 Love the boatCan you tell me what you like about it so much? Which guitar do you have that has the boat?
cynic Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Presumably, being based on a '56 Strat makes the Tally a boat neck, and it's the most comfortable profile I own (x3).I'm not really a neck profile connoisseur, so I won't try a bunch of flowery words to describe it. I just find having a smaller section of the neck against my hand while playing to be less fatiguing. I can see where it wouldn't be for everyone, but my hands are very prone to numbness and tingling. The way the Tally sits in the hand allows me to play longer with less discomfort or other weirdness. IMO, the feel IS so different from other profiles that you shouldn't take any opinion here as justification to buy one. It's something that should be tried in person.
dragan Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I dont know anything about the boat , and have exp with only 2 hamers my newport and tally . Both guitars have slightly larger necks than I'd have thought I would like, but they are very comfortable to play . My theory on this is that the larger neck allows for better action on the fretboard and thumb position on the back of the neck, the tally has a slight v on the back of the neck and feels slightly larger than the newport.
cmatthes Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I prefer it to all other carves, but I like bigger neck profiles anyway. I have it on a Musikraft Strat and Tele neck, and gravitate towards those two a lot. I like the way it fills my fretting hand and helps position my fingers on the board. Less fatigue and nice leverage when I want it - makes barre chords as easy on the first fret as well above the 12th for some reason. I also find that it doesn't dig into the second joint of my thumb like some other neck carves can do at times. Any neck I order going forward will probably have that profile. For illustration...
Ting Ho Dung Posted August 20, 2014 Author Posted August 20, 2014 Very interesting. Thanks guys. I didn't know the Tally had the boat carve. Thanks for the diagrams Chris. I may have to look for one to play and see if it's for me.
cynic Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 A word about the Tally neck, it's not as substantial as displayed in the "boat neck" example above. It's most similar to the Clapton profile. Harder V, less shoulder."'56 V Neck - .880" at the 1st fret - .980" at the 12th fret, also known as the "Boat Neck", small "shoulders" with most of it's girth at the very center of the back of the neck, this profile is standard on a Fender Custom Shop '56 Strat model"
hamerhead Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I picked up a buddy's absolutely gorgeous Tally and was thankful the 'v' shape wasn't for me (although it meant not having a new Hamer model with a Sustain Block). Felt strange.
gorch Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 In a tendency, I go for fatter necks. Over the years I have given up to think about it really. Simply, because you can't change the neck. My guitarsnI bought for many reasons but the neck. If it had the right neck, I'd not like the top or pickups or whatever. Flipping guitars just for the neck, therefore, would never make me happy.
jwhitcomb3 Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Dunno where it fits on the curve spectrum above, but my Carvin Fatboy 2 has a very hefty neck, and it is super comfy. Not much V to it at all, so I'm guessing it is in the "Fat" ballpark.Never been married to a particular neck profile, and I've enjoyed everything from the Fatboy to the super skinny Parker Fly Deluxe. Similarly, I like flat Hamer boards and 7.25" radius Fender boards. My Gurian S3M has a 1-5/8″ nut, and my Lowden O32 has a 1 25/32" nut.They all take my playing in different directions, which for me is a good thing.The only thing I can't do is a super thin (fretboard to back of neck) acoustic guitar neck. I had to sell my Composite Acoustics OX guitar, because it killed my hand.
JohnnyB Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 I prefer it to all other carves.... I like the way it fills my fretting hand and helps position my fingers on the board. Less fatigue and nice leverage when I want it - makes barre chords as easy on the first fret as well above the 12th for some reason. I also find that it doesn't dig into the second joint of my thumb like some other neck carves can do at times. Any neck I order going forward will probably have that profile.This is how I feel as well. I can barre chord all night with a deep neck (boat or not) and not get hand cramps. It's the best neck for lots of rhythm playing. Yet, for solo work I don't find it obstructive at all. I have an Ibanez AS-180 (MIJ 335-type). It's a nice instrument and wonderfully finished, but the neck is Ibanez-thin, and my hand gets tired quicker when chording than on my Anniversary and Newport, which have more substantial necks. I've played old acoustics with boat carve necks (e.g., a 1905 Washburn parlor guitar), and while they feel thick when you start out, you soon find that they are very comfortable to play, and neck stability provides better intonation.
BubbaVO Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 And to make it more confusing, I thought the Tally Pro had a "softer" V shaped neck than the Tally. I really liked my Tally. Shouldn't have let her go.When I visited BCR, I got my mits around a US Masters Hornet with a really cool asymetrical neck - that one was comfy to play too.
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