zenmindbeginner Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Grindcore, dual lead tapping, kitschy keyboards and a cute girl singer...The death of music?orA waste of perfectly good white kidz?You decide.Mr. Bungle called and wanted his music back fo shizzle.
velorush Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Heck of a Dr. Pepper burp there around 1:30 and again around 1:44 and 2:05; guess that was why she was screaming before (esophageal pain?). It was better when she started singing. Looks like fun.
Thundernotes Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Having watched that sort of thing for the last 8 years, (my son was in such a band) I can honestly say it's not a total loss. They do eventually mature and start singing or really playing their instruments, or just give it up. It's no worse than the punk shit that came around when I was growing up.
cmatthes Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 It's no worse than the punk shit that came around when I was growing up.Bite your tongue there, Brian!
Thundernotes Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 I meant relative to "mainstream" music of the day. Even Kiss was a little "out there" back then. Most of these kids don't know the first thing about their instrument or how to play it. They just drop tune it and play these one finger chords....... don't get me started.
Scottcrud Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 I think these kids know how to play. Pretty sure of that.
polara Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 If there is one eternal truth in music, it's that what our parents loved was boring, what we loved when we were 18 is brilliant, and what kids love now is noisy crap.
crunchee Posted July 23, 2010 Posted July 23, 2010 Having watched that sort of thing for the last 8 years, (my son was in such a band) I can honestly say it's not a total loss. They do eventually mature and start singing or really playing their instruments, or just give it up. It's no worse than the punk shit that came around when I was growing up. Bite your tongue there, Brian! I meant relative to "mainstream" music of the day. Even Kiss was a little "out there" back then. +1 to Thundernotes! I remember when Punk and New Wave hit, some was good, some was absolute crap--memories tend to be selective. I dunno, I think it (the clip) sounds familiar in a way. I've heard live early recordings of some popular bands before (I think most of us here have), where 90% of it sounded like crap and it was quickly put out of it's misery, but 10% sounded pretty good and gave a good hint of the direction they were going in. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. The only lament I have nowadays is that I don't have easy access to what's going on in the music world, except for mainstream outlets. I'm reduced to listening to 'World Cafe' on NPR for something that's different. One complaint I DO have...what's the difference between 'Bieber hair' and The Beatles' hair style, circa late '65? P.S. Speaking of Kiss being 'out there', anybody for Disco?
livewire Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 When the singer comes in, kinda reminds me of what happens when I leave the toilet seat up
polara Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 "The only lament I have nowadays is that I don't have easy access to what's going on in the music world, except for mainstream outlets. I'm reduced to listening to 'World Cafe' on NPR for something that's different."There are thousands of streaming internet stations. Try slacker.com or pandora.com or spinner.com. I'm using a slacker.com portable that refreshes my stations when it's in wifi range and I get an endless stream of new music on stations I create, from big band standards to dance rock to electronica to acid jazz.Kiss was considered "out there"at some point? Seriously? I mean, they came out after Sabbath and never rocked 1/10 as hard. I have a hard time imagining Kiss ever being thought of as innovative or rockin' except as a marketing exercise.
crunchee Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 "The only lament I have nowadays is that I don't have easy access to what's going on in the music world, except for mainstream outlets. I'm reduced to listening to 'World Cafe' on NPR for something that's different." There are thousands of streaming internet stations. Try slacker.com or pandora.com or spinner.com. I'm using a slacker.com portable that refreshes my stations when it's in wifi range and I get an endless stream of new music on stations I create, from big band standards to dance rock to electronica to acid jazz. I should clarify--I know about internet radio, I've used it in the past, but my habits are stuck in 1999. No excuse, I suppose, I should get new speakers for the computer. I HATE carrying a cellphone around, I have a work-related phobia about that, so no iPhone for me, thanks. If I was 20 again, I'd be like a pig in poop with all this technology, but I still look at some of it as a encumberance rather than something liberating. This quote from Ogden Nash tends to fit me: 'Middle age is when you're sitting at home on a Saturday night and the telephone rings and you hope it isn't for you.' Now, get off my lawn!
polara Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 Crunchee, you might like that slacker.com portable. I got mine for fiddy bucks used. Plug it into your PC (if you're Mac Like Me you can only use wi-fi) and just come up with forty radio stations. Always had a secret lust for zydeco? Curious about current black metal? Program 'em in. It fills the player with music and away you go.I think for people born after, say, 1980 internet radio IS radio. Might as well enjoy these advances in technology. The days of saying "Everything on the radio is crap" are long gone. Everything IS on the radio now! The downside is that if someone wants to listen to, say, only klezmer music, one can do just that and never have one's tastes expanded by having to listen to anything outside of a narrow view.
MCChris Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 I have a hard time imagining Kiss ever being thought of as innovative or rockin' except as a marketing exercise.Maybe not innovative, but if you watch the Winterland show from Kissology Vol. 1 and don't think that's a rockin' performance, your biases are doing the opining for you.Back to the topic at hand, I was exposed to more of this type of music than I care to admit or remember when I owned the cafe. I don't get it. But then, I'm not supposed to. When I read about parents being all giddy that their children are into the same music they were as kids, I think it's a shame. It's okay to an extent, I suppose, but overall, it just ain't right. Younger generations need their own artistic heroes, ideally ones that piss off their elders. That's a big part of the fun.
polara Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 Agreed... somehow kids need to do SOMETHING that is their own. And that kind of thrash-prog-pop mashup the kids in the video were doing is theirs (though it's not too far removed from Dillinger Escape Plan in a way).Checked out the Winterland footage. Hmm. It may be a case of having to be in the right place at the right time.
Punkavenger Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 I'm listening to Pandora One as I type this, $36 a year no commercials, thats $.10 a day! ... bought a cheap Y cable for $6.99 and hooked up to my Macbook pro ... awesome. You can find almost anything you want on here ... get tired of what they're playing ... just create a new station, takes seconds. Curious about a new band, just type in the name or song an check it out instantaneously ... doesn't rival vinyl for sound quality but not bad. Someday I'll buy the fancy Y cable JB recommended but for now I'm stoked.
BubbaVO Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 I have a hard time imagining Kiss ever being thought of as innovative or rockin' except as a marketing exercise.Maybe not innovative, but if you watch the Winterland show from Kissology Vol. 1 and don't think that's a rockin' performance, your biases are doing the opining for you.. When I read about parents being all giddy that their children are into the same music they were as kids, I think it's a shame. It's okay to an extent, I suppose, but overall, it just ain't right. Younger generations need their own artistic heroes, ideally ones that piss off their elders. That's a big part of the fun.Couldn't agree more.
Mindseyes Posted July 24, 2010 Posted July 24, 2010 My drummer is 35 and loves this kinda stuff......lol Id say they know how to play their guitars!! Real video on utube I think they are bad ass at what they do........not something im gonna listen to on my own.....
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