Pancake body

[Disturber]

Is a Les Paul 1970's pancake body considered to be inferior to a center seem glued to part body? If so, why?

[cynic]

1 minute ago, Disturber said:

Is a Les Paul 1970's pancake body considered to be inferior to a center seem glued to part body?

By many, yes.

1 minute ago, Disturber said:

If so, why?

Because that's not the way it was done in 1959.

 

I've owned dozens of Gibson LPs and the lone survivor is my Norlin era deluxe.

[Dave Scepter]

30 minutes ago, Disturber said:

 If so, why?

Because it's viewed upon as "ply" however, I personally can't hear any discernible differences 

[DaveH]

There are so many variables in guitar making... I'm convinced that you can find examples of awesomeness, and dogs, in any approach devised. Some variables may contribute more, or less than others one way or the other.

[JGale]

Not the same...

[The Shark]

Pancake bodies are always heavier.  Heavy is not good to some of us snobs.  Remember, the body is pancaked and the top is laminated.  Resonance is a key factor in a good sounding guitar, in my opinion.  And they just don't ring acoustically as well.  

 

[BTMN]

I have never owned a Gibson with a pancake body but I have owned a couple Ibanez and an Electra they were from 1974 and 1976. Played and sounded like guitars to my untrained ears. Always had decent sound from them. Still own a ‘74 Electra LP and a ‘76 Ibanez LP.

[BoogieMKIIA]

2 hours ago, cynic said:

By many, yes.

Because that's not the way it was done in 1959.

 

I've owned dozens of Gibson LPs and the lone survivor is my Norlin era deluxe.

It was not done that way in 1959 covers a lot of ground. And the weight. The 3-piece neck is a feature for Hamer guitars, panned for Les Pauls.

Mine is a 1973 and while I would get the traditional wood combination if I ever got another one, this one plays and sounds great, plus the mojo from being played 50 years. A 1959 was only 14 years old when I got my deluxe. 

[cynic]

57 minutes ago, The Shark said:

Pancake bodies are always heavier.  Heavy is not good to some of us snobs.

Heavier than what, exactly?

There are only two actual truths when it comes to Les Pauls:

1.  LPs are the epitome of crapshoot guitars, regardless of era.

2. Pancake bodies are not always heavier.

 

[hamerhead]

This 10+pound pig has been here for 44 years.

Still my favorite.

[Dave Scepter]

Yup, my 8lb tone monkey 🐵

 

[cmatthes]

1 hour ago, Dave Scepter said:

Yup, my 8lb tone monkey 🐵

 

I want one.

[BTMN]

3 hours ago, cmatthes said:

I want one.

Yeah we do!!!! 😎👍🏁

[Biz Prof]

7 minutes ago, BTMN said:

Yeah we do!!!! 😎👍🏁

Don't we all???

[The Shark]

22 hours ago, cynic said:

Heavier than what, exactly?

There are only two actual truths when it comes to Les Pauls:

1.  LPs are the epitome of crapshoot guitars, regardless of era.

2. Pancake bodies are not always heavier.

 

Your's is the exception, not the rule.  Trust me.  I've owned twenty or thirty Deluxes in my time.  Only one was under nine pounds.  Customs too.