Random (Music and Guitar Related) Thoughts Thread

[RobB]

1 hour ago, LucSulla said:

I'd never heard this song until two days ago despite liking Scorpions and even having seen them live once.

You old heads have to cough this shit up more often.  Blew my damned mind.

Their first six albums are required listening, you Gen Y schmucko! Harken thee to a 17yr old Michael Schenker on the Kraut Rock classic, 1973’s, “Lonesome Crow.” 
 

A copy of ‘78’s, “Tokyo Tapes” will get you in the door. Ulrich Roth rips a new one on every track. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by RobB

[Dave Scepter]

10 minutes ago, RobB said:

Harken thee to a 17yr old Michael Schenker 

Ummm that's Rudolph Schenker & Uli Roth...

Oops nevermind, I re-read your post

Edited December 2, 2021 by Dave Scepter

[RobB]

Just now, Dave Scepter said:

Ummm that's Rudolph Schenker & Uli Roth

No, that’s incorrect. Michael was the original guitarist and wrote/played on their first album, “Lonesome Crow.” Roth was in another Hannover band, Dawn Road, and joined Scorpions for their second album, “Fly To the Rainbow”, after Schenker was poached by UFO. 

[Steve Haynie]

Uli Jon Roth was big influence on Yngwie Malmsteen.  Yngwie did Sails Of Charon on one of his albums.

[Dave Scepter]

41 minutes ago, RobB said:

No, that’s incorrect. Michael was the original guitarist and wrote/played on their first album, “Lonesome Crow.” Roth was in another Hannover band, Dawn Road, and joined Scorpions for their second album, “Fly To the Rainbow”, after Schenker was poached by UFO. 

I'm taking about the video you shared ~

[Travis]

40 minutes ago, Steve Haynie said:

Uli Jon Roth was big influence on Yngwie Malmsteen.  Yngwie did Sails Of Charon on one of his albums.

Yup, the “Inspiration” album. His collection of covers. It’s a cool version and can get a bit over the top as only Yngwie can do. In fact, I heard his cover before I ever heard the Scorps original. I came to prefer the original. 

[RobB]

10 minutes ago, Dave Scepter said:

I'm taking about the video you shared ~

OK. Fixed my post. 

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[LucSulla]

16 hours ago, RobB said:

Their first six albums are required listening, you Gen Y schmucko! Harken thee to a 17yr old Michael Schenker on the Kraut Rock classic, 1973’s, “Lonesome Crow.” 
 

A copy of ‘78’s, “Tokyo Tapes” will get you in the door. Ulrich Roth rips a new one on every track. 

I've heard Lonesome Crow on the recommendation from Mikael Akerfeldt, oddly enough.  I like Opeth a lot.  After hearing "The Sails of Charon," I thought to myself, "Well, this is about 10 Opeth songs."

Going through all of Scorp's 70s stuff today.  Definitely more my thing than their 80s output. 
 

 

[RobB]

36 minutes ago, LucSulla said:

I've heard Lonesome Crow on the recommendation from Mikael Akerfeldt, oddly enough.  I like Opeth a lot.  After hearing "The Sails of Charon," I thought to myself, "Well, this is about 10 Opeth songs."

Going through all of Scorp's 70s stuff today.  Definitely more my thing than their 80s output. 

Good man. Their style changed pretty dramatically when Roth joined. Rudy began writing shorter, more melodic songs. Roth usually contributed a song or two of his Hendrixian shredding and, er, "interesting", vocal stylings. 

Yeah, coming from, "Lovedrive/Animal Magnetism/Blackout", I discovered their 70's catalog a little late in the game. They would have never achieved the same success with Roth. Mattias Jabs was the final ingredient that sealed their fate.

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[RobB]

On 12/2/2021 at 11:33 AM, LucSulla said:

Going through all of Scorp's 70s stuff today.  Definitely more my thing than their 80s output. 
 

More UJR shreddingness. Blackmore meets Hendrix in a barfight. Jimi wins by decision:

 

[Travis]

11 minutes ago, RobB said:

More UJR shreddingness. Blackmore meets Hendrix in a barfight. Jimi wins by decision:

 

Thanks for posting!

never heard that song before. I definitely need to go back thru the Scorpions back catalog. 

[RobB]

48 minutes ago, Travis said:

I definitely need to go back thru the Scorpions back catalog. 

UJR was a bit under the radar in the 70’s, mainly because Scorpions weren’t really established in the West until later in the decade. I think EVH was VERY influenced by Roth. Rhoads, too, but don’t I recall them citing early Scorps as an influence. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by RobB

[RobB]

I love UJR’s playing. Roth, Blackmore, Al DiMeola and, to a lesser extent, Jan Akkerman,  we’re the forerunners of, “neo-classical metal” guitar, or whatever it became. These four stood out among many hard rock guitarists by utilizing harmonic/gypsy minor, diminished and Japanese scales in lead phrasing. 

[DJL]

Kind of an amusing Uli story .

When I was a learning youngster , I Loved his Scorpions/Electric Sun output . By 19 , I was working hard to absorb it and learn some . Something like 'Polar Nights' was within reach , but 'Catch your train' simply wasn't possible . I turned everyone that I would meet on to Uli , most enjoyed his playing but hated his Voice (I found his singing overwhelmingly emotional , especially on the 'Firewind' album .) . So - I have a new Band that I'm trying to beat into shape (They want to smoke dope and play the dead/Tom Petty , I want to rehearse the same heavy tune 40 times in a row until it comes out right) and I discover Uli has a new record out .....

Finally score a copy at Dimple Records in Roseville , bring it to the Drummer's house to listen to it . I am shocked ! Where are the first 2 Electric Sun albums ??? WTF ?!? Not heavy , not ..... anything like what I was expecting . And Uli's Strat sounds very un-Stratty . I'd yet to learn about the Sky Guitar .

Then this tune comes up -
 

The break starts , and I stare at the turntable , quite unable to wrap my little Mind around what I am hearing . Sound with cascading emotions .... then the high parts at the end come thru . Up into Dog whistle land , I am even more dumbfounded and can do little more that continue to stare at the turntable .

36 years later , it still has the same effect on me .

D.~

 

 

[Steve Haynie]

Alembic posted this at their own web site.  They have a sense of humor. 

[DaveH]

Knobs 7, 8, and 9 would annoy the hell out of me. 😂

[Brooks]

Roth's playing is fantastic, I wore out Tokyo Tapes & Virgin Killer as a kid. I later bought a few UJR solo albums that were unlistenable. Another guy like Yngwie, Vai etc who greatly benefits from a collaboration songwriting situation.

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