Nuclear Wessel Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Limited Edition "Toxic Chemical-burst" beat up LP? A load of crap
pesocaster Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Dear GOD someone put that poor LP out of it's misery...
Willie G. Moseley Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 "...colors of Mardi Gras," my bohunkus. The top of that guitar looks like Walt Disney threw up on it.
Submariner85 Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 That's "Art" LMAO What a butt ugly guitar! And the Pickguard is GAY.
jisham Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 I like it...alot. I wonder how much Hamer donated to hurricane victims?
thecajunboy Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 I think they'd sell more if they built a Loot Paul. You know, one with Beer Looter Dude all over it. Actually, the fund seems like a nice idea and probably is, but I read through the qualifications and it's gonna likely end up excluding the guy that really needs the help. And of course Guitar Center and it's brother Musician's Friend are the places you get to spend any money they're granted.
Aceldama Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Looks like my toilet bowl after warm sushi and beer night.
JohnnyB Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 "The instrument captures the essence of the Gulf Coast's musical tradition."What, you guys drag your guitars across the sidewalk and then throw up on them?
Bob P Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 I like it...alot. I wonder how much Hamer donated to hurricane victims? I'm not sure if this post I am quoting is serious or not, so..... I feel obligated to tell what I know about this situation.I've been selling machine tools for 5-1/2 years (mostly CNC routers, lathes, machining centers, etc). My territory is New England but I am in touch with people selling near New Orleans on almost a daily basis. The salesman I know are cleaning up by re-selling equipment down there at FULL LIST price (with the appropriate commissions). It should all be covered by insurance companies. I am not saying this is right, I am merely pointing out that a lot of people are making MILLIONS on this tragedy. The machine manufacturers/importers have essentially doubled their orders there without ANYONE questioning them. Shouldn't the people that are making unexpected profit be called to task to help rebuild FIRST. Why would you (or anyone) expect a small guitar company that has nothing to do with the area to donate to this? I don't mean to start a $h!tstorm but IMO, Hamer is way down on my list of people that SHOULD be expected to donate.AFAIC, Gibshit would build a guitar to commomerate 2 Pacs demise if they thought they could make money at it.
MCChris Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 AFAIC, Gibshit would build a guitar to commomerate 2 Pacs demise if they thought they could make money at it. Exactly. This is the marketing of a disaster, plain and simple. Pretty lowbrow if you ask me.
jisham Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 AFAIC, Gibshit would build a guitar to commomerate 2 Pacs demise if they thought they could make money at it. Exactly. This is the marketing of a disaster, plain and simple. Pretty lowbrow if you ask me. You don't have to buy it and most won't. But IMO, whether you like the given "Gibshit" or not, the company is doing something to help those affected. Look, I don't care too much what Henry's doing at Gibson these days either; on the other hand, I haven't heard of any other guitar companies -- including Hamer -- stepping up to the plate. Bag on Gibson's business practices, bag on their inconsitent quality control (I know I do), but I won't go after their "intentions" in this case. So I disagree with you Chris.I still like the axe. I don't "expect" a small guitar company to donate but it's a little asinine to go after Gibson for doing so. Last time I looked, Hamer's selling some overprice axes these days too.
jujisque Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 I think that with a little more greens, blues, and purples I would really like that finish.
edgar_allan_poe Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 You don't have to buy it and most won't. But IMO, whether you like the given "Gibshit" or not, the company is doing something to help those affected.Look, I don't care too much what Henry's doing at Gibson these days either; on the other hand, I haven't heard of any other guitar companies -- including Hamer -- stepping up to the plate. Bag on Gibson's business practices, bag on their inconsitent quality control (I know I do), but I won't go after their "intentions" in this case. So I disagree with you Chris. I still like the axe. I don't "expect" a small guitar company to donate but it's a little asinine to go after Gibson for doing so. Last time I looked, Hamer's selling some overprice axes these days too. Big +1....but that pickguard is still "GAY". ROTFLMAO! BTW...my wife told me that if you were heavier, she would be all over you. LOL!!!
kizanski Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 BTW...my wife told me that if you were heavier, she would be all over you. LOL!!! Her poor taste in men is legendary.
LarryC Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 You know, I had several thoughts running through my head as I read this thread, most of them negative. I saw the ad for this guitar (I believe) in either Guitar World or Guitar One magazine recently and I was somewhat repulsed by it...and the guitar IS butt-ugly to say the least. But to bring this thing back around to the spirit of the initial post (although it is a bit shrowded by the ugliness of that guitar) I think whether it's Gibson USA, Fender, Hamer, Toyota, Ford, or whoever wants to make a contribution or raise money for disaster relief, they should do just THAT. To make something to "commemorate" a disaster in such a graphic manner as to be a steady reminder of the sludge and filth left behind in the wake of Katrina...then mark it up so they can maintain their original profit margin (maybe plus a little who knows) while they give the remaining funds over their own profit to the disaster relief is just a might cheesey to me. You KNOW that is what will happen...but I would think if they really wanted to help they could use a more popular look, one which more people would buy (I wouldn't be seen dead with that green-slime-lookin thing).I grew up playing Gibsons and I still play 'em. People are certainly entitled to their opinions and that's terrific as well. I am new to Hamer myself and I have really enjoyed mine. I still like playing my SG too, or a Les Paul, or either of my two Gibson acoustics. Scores of successful musicians are still playing Gibsons and the majority of them will continue to do so. Personally I am repulsed by the idea of ANYONE making money from a disaster...I mean this Les Paul thing reeks of opportunism cloaked in a noble cause. If they do indeed sell them at 'zero' profit (which makes no sense) then that is good for them, but they could have at least picked one of their middle-of-the-road studios or something with a nice color and finish which would probably sell in higher quantities to up-and-comers or something where there could be some serious donations made.The Loot Paul idea made me laugh...maybe one with an image of that guy carting off the 52" TV saying "it's ok to loot cuz the police ain't here". Ok, bad joke. Sorry.The greens, blues, and purple idea (Mardi Gras colors) makes MUCH better sense than the green slime design to me. +1 on that one!LC
Nuclear Wessel Posted December 2, 2005 Author Posted December 2, 2005 Just to make sure I'm clear on this, I have no problem with Gibson or anyone else contributing to helping hurricane survivors in any way. I do wonder how much money G!bson will raise selling a guitar as ugly as that one, but an effort to help keep the culture of New Orleans alive by helping musicins who have lost property is to be commended. I just re-read the press release on HC and saw the bit about the guitar being painted with the "colors of the Mardi Gras". I really thought at first, given that the guitar is "Hurricane Motif" and the back is "reliced", presumably to suggest the guitar survived the hurricane, that the colors on the top were supposed to suggest the toxic chemicals that we've all heard were washed all over New Orleans. I thought that was pretty poor taste. Not even that. I thought it was just stupid. I don't think anyone here is slighting G!bson for making an effort to help hurricane survivors. There are plenty of good reasons to slight them. And that guitar really is ugly. And if they were thinking the top should look like the wood was soaked in toxic chemicals to simulate the "Hurrican Motif" and then thought better of it, well that is still a poor excuse for making a butt-ugly guitar.
edgar_allan_poe Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 I still can't get over how "GAY" that pickguard is....DAMN THAT'S GAY!!
Nuclear Wessel Posted December 2, 2005 Author Posted December 2, 2005 I still can't get over how "GAY" that pickguard is....DAMN THAT'S GAY!! Kinda like those spoke rims on the SUV's.
guitfiddler Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Ya know, I don't quite get the "all omnipotent" and "King of the Mountain" status Gibson seems to enjoy, overwhelmingly. I went to see the Allman Brothers this summer at Montage Mountain, PA. Jack Pearson was in tow as a 3rd. axeman, for 4 or 5 "special" non-Allman standard numbers, slinging a Stratocaster.Frankly - the tone of Jack's Strat totally smoked the tone of Derek Trucks' SG, and both Warrens Firebird and Les Paul that night. My bud Ken and I both went home that night saluting Leo. My point is.... I would never spend more than a grand on a Les Paul as a working guitar, let alone a commemorative guitar.
Brownsound Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 You want to know what the best thing we could do for the Hurricane victims. Every state donate a thousand dumptruck loads of clean fill. Elevate all devastated areas of New Orleand above seal level. That way our money wont be flushed down the toilet by rebuilding only to see it happen again next cat 4 Hurricane.
JES1680 Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Ok here's my deal. If you're going to give to a relief fund as a corporation then do it. Hell, issue a press release if you want (tacky but done all the time). But every time Gibson (or other companies) do something like this it just smacks of self promotion. This is marketing pure and simple.
Bob P Posted December 2, 2005 Posted December 2, 2005 I absolutely agree with with JES1680. I also hope that my previous post didn't offend anyone as I was reacting to a very specific situation I encountered a few weeks ago. I was at Fabtech in Chicago (manufacturers equivalent to the NAMM show) and talking to a salesman that very casually remarked that Katrina "almost made up" for the business he lost due to 9-11. I tell you it took a lot for me to walk away from that without knocking his teeth out. It just disgusts me when events like a natural disaster, terrorist attack, etc only equate to dollars and cents for some people. I guess my reaction to Gibson's guitar was largely based on that. I just find it hard to believe that they released that guitar because they really care- seems more like marketing hype.In any event any act that helps those affected by Katrina is a good thing. I hope Gibson is able to contribute a lot. As a side note, some of the bodies and necks I've seen on recent Les Pauls would have been better off going to Habitat for Humanity to help build a deck for a house destroyed by Katrina- LOL.
Nuclear Wessel Posted December 2, 2005 Author Posted December 2, 2005 As a side note, some of the bodies and necks I've seen on recent Les Pauls would have been better off going to Habitat for Humanity to help build a deck for a house destroyed by Katrina- LOL. I'm sure the volunteers at Habitat for Humanity would have been able to nail the pieaces of wood together straighter than the "craftsmen" at G!bson.
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