zorrow Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Found this Googling about Queensryche: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=176587 I'm... shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I could have read a morning's worth of news, but instead I got stuck on that soap opera of a band saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRS6 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 It seems none of these guys have seen Spinal Tap.NEVER let Wives or Girlfriends (or Husbands or Lovers etc) get involved with management, A&R or anything to do with the bands musical or financial business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Tate was on That Metal Show and Saturday and discussed this pretty freely (at least his side of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCChris Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 My takeaways:1. Queensryche Cabaret = Kilroy Was Here2. Tremendous restraint by Wilton and Rockenfield to not stomp the shit out of Tate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfeel Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I knew it was a sign of things to come when Geoff said in an interview several years ago: "I'm not really a metal guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRS6 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up.Yeah, wait until after the show then let him have it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfeel Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I suppose timing is everything, however, what kind of show are you going to have when someone has just shamed/insulted/humiliated you?Hmmm, who else here would let Geoff Tate spit on them, hit them in the face without some type of retaliation? Definately not a violent person but if someone I was in a band with tried that shit with me, they would be hurting...Maybe some guys are more worried about making sure there is a show for the people who showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 It seems none of these guys have seen Spinal Tap.NEVER let Wives or Girlfriends (or Husbands or Lovers etc) get involved with management, A&R or anything to do with the bands musical or financial business. yeah... or read about the reasons why SuperTramp will never tour as a complete original band again. One member decided to marry their record person and make her the manager. ALWAYS a BAD MOVE.Heck Romance inside of bands in general can have disastrous effects. Look at Fleetwood Mac. Or the Ramones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRS6 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Romance inside of bands !The Ramones ? ???Am I missing something here ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincsman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Mindcrime is still in my top 5 albums of all time Real shame when this happens to bands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobB Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Geoff said in an interview several years ago: "I'm not really a metal guy" Big shock, there. Always thought Qryche were, "not really a metal band." Nice to see it confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantig Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'm not sure I buy Tate's story on TMS. Some things don't add up, like the idea that he can't understand why they won't talk to him after he pulled a knife on them and spit at them. Or that there were no creative differences, but he complains (elsewhere) that the rest of the band wouldn't participate in writing.If you saw them on the Rocklahoma broadcast, it was somewhat bizarre. Tate didn't look at another band member for the full 90 minutes. No eye contact whatsoever, no acknowledgement that there was anyone else on stage with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Romance inside of bands !The Ramones ? ???Am I missing something here ?? Johnny Ramone married Joey Ramone's Ex girlfriend. So I guess technically it wasn't "within" the band, but that's still just as divisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRS6 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Romance inside of bands !The Ramones ? ???Am I missing something here ?? Johnny Ramone married Joey Ramone's Ex girlfriend. So I guess technically it wasn't "within" the band, but that's still just as divisive.Ahhhhh I get it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turdus Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I like Tate as a performer. I can only imagine that as the band became more successful, maybe he felt responsible for that success. Probably should have split after Empire if he did not want to do the Metal thing. Guess he needed the band name, and they needed him... thus the long relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTheThighs Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I seen Queensryche open for KISS in around 1984-1985.They come out, play the first couple of songs ... the crowd is getting intoit. Between song banter begins:Tate: How ya do'in St Louis !!??Crowd: BOOO! F#CK YOU!!!Unfortunately for Tate, the band was playing in Louisville, Ky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svl Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I seen Queensryche open for KISS in around 1984-1985.They come out, play the first couple of songs ... the crowd is getting intoit. Between song banter begins:Tate: How ya do'in St Louis !!??Crowd: BOOO! F#CK YOU!!!Unfortunately for Tate, the band was playing in Louisville, Ky.Classic!After seeing TMS on Saturday, I felt for Tate. After reading that entire article, my opinion changed.LSD is a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackubus Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 He's looking a bit like Anton LaVey these days. Tan-ton LaVey in his case perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfeel Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Here is Geoff Tate's take on the situation - his Rolling Stone interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-q-a-geoff-tate-on-queensryches-ugly-split-backstage-brawl-in-brazil-20120626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrettyMcgee Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I seen Queensryche open for KISS in around 1984-1985.They come out, play the first couple of songs ... the crowd is getting intoit. Between song banter begins:Tate: How ya do'in St Louis !!??Crowd: BOOO! F#CK YOU!!!Unfortunately for Tate, the band was playing in Louisville, Ky.Holy shit, lol!My first concert was that Animalize tour in Vancouver '84 and I was a little f'er booing QR. Of course, I was 12 at the time and only was there to see KISS. My sister tried to shut me the hell up because she thought we were going to get our asses kicked. But I clearly remember people in my seating section having a laugh at this little punk kid booing the opening act.There's a sort of irony that years later MindCrime and Empire ended up being two albums I'd most want to have created, as a "grown up" musician.I'd really love to hear Chris DeGarmo's take on this whole situation, starting with his departure till now. When DeGarmo left, QR lost their star quarterback and it was never the same again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorrow Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Here is Geoff Tate's take on the situation - his Rolling Stone interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-q-a-geoff-tate-on-queensryches-ugly-split-backstage-brawl-in-brazil-20120626 Seriously, he sounds to me like a skilled politician trying to look surprised while facing corruption charges --"I didn't know", "they never told me", "the signed up, so they were happy" and so on... Bullsh$%t! If I add both stories and divide by two, I still think the band's outings are closer to the truth than Tate's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfeel Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Here is Geoff Tate's take on the situation - his Rolling Stone interview: http://www.rollingst...brazil-20120626 Seriously, he sounds to me like a skilled politician trying to look surprised while facing corruption charges --"I didn't know", "they never told me", "the signed up, so they were happy" and so on... Bullsh$%t! If I add both stories and divide by two, I still think the band's outings are closer to the truth than Tate's. +1 Totally agree... He sounds like he has a touch of doucheness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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