The Shark Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 10 hours ago, HSB0531 said: With no disrespect to anyone who likes or owns one, I always thought the same as you about All Maple guitars and basses too. I Do like Maple caps on Mahogany though, and I also don't mind necks made of maple. I'm with you. But not a fan of maple necks. Especially, if they have ebony boards.
narad Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 10 hours ago, bruce919 said: That guitar is/was mine. Sale is pending at this time. Wish you had posted it here, may have been able to work something out! Killer guitar!
bruce919 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 8:25 PM, kurtsstuff said: Reverb has the same deal as well..I no longer use either one. Not totally because of that but, most buyers on those sites seem to think they are shopping at Musicians Friend or Sweetwater. Too many wanting to return things because "Not what they were hoping it would be" Whatever the hell that means The buyers remorse thing sucks, or they just get shi*t faced & hit the buy it now button . The large audience you reach is the only thing Reverb has left going for it. . If I could all sales would be private & be done in cash. I am planning on selling off a good portion of my collection over the next two years.
cmatthes Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 16 hours ago, bruce919 said: I am planning on selling off a good portion of my collection over the next two years. I wish you hadn’t sold your Standard 12 yet! 😉
VECTOR Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 12:38 AM, The Shark said: Am I the only one that thinks all maple guitars all sound like shit. Bright with a funky mid. JMHO. Don't get me wrong. It's a beautiful guitar. Disagree. I have / had four solid body guitars and one bass guitar made of maple and only one of the guitars was on the bright side. It seems more to depend on the electronics and/ or the hardware. For example my '78 Sunburst (hog) is way more brighter sounding than my '93 Sunburst with a fat maple cap.
Dave Scepter Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 6 hours ago, VECTOR said: Disagree. I have / had four solid body guitars and one bass guitar made of maple and only one of the guitars was on the bright side. It seems more to depend on the electronics and/ or the hardware. For example my '78 Sunburst (hog) is way more brighter sounding than my '93 Sunburst with a fat maple cap. This ☝️... plus there are so many different types/densities of "maple"... I have a 80',s rock hard maple Charvel that is bright "& heavy" too and also have a solid quilted maple Jackson that's pretty lightweight and warmer in tone... both were fine tuned with aftermarket PU's
HSB0531 Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 12:12 AM, cmatthes said: I wish you hadn’t sold your Standard 12 yet! 😉 Guitar or bass?
cmatthes Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, HSB0531 said: Guitar or bass? Guitar.
The Shark Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 7:39 AM, VECTOR said: Disagree. I have / had four solid body guitars and one bass guitar made of maple and only one of the guitars was on the bright side. It seems more to depend on the electronics and/ or the hardware. For example my '78 Sunburst (hog) is way more brighter sounding than my '93 Sunburst with a fat maple cap. I'm talking all maple body and neck...
Bennyboy-UK Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 23 hours ago, Dave Scepter said: This ☝️... plus there are so many different types/densities of "maple"... I have a 80',s rock hard maple Charvel that is bright "& heavy" too and also have a solid quilted maple Jackson that's pretty lightweight and warmer in tone... both were fine tuned with aftermarket PU's This is my experience too. I believe the big leaf maple Hamer tended to use for bodies (on paper at least) had similar density ranges as mahogany. Certainly my maple bodied Centaura is very pleasantly meaty sounding. Again Pickups have a large amount of authority on what the thing sounds like - in this case a PATB-1 and PATB- Stkn - the PATB-1 I’ve always found a meaty sounding pickup as well - particularly when I had one in my mahogany bodies Californian. The two guitars sounded very similar which was notable to me.
Bennyboy-UK Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 I’m not an expert or guitar builder however
VECTOR Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, The Shark said: I'm talking all maple body and neck... I know. 2 Calis, 1 Chaparral, 1 Carvin and 1 Yamaha TRB with exactly these specs. And all with ebony fretboards. Only one of the Calis was on the brighter side. In fact I expected the typical 80's George Lynch Sound (cutting) from both Calis and was surprised how balanced one of them was. There are differences between both - the '89 model seems to have a bit smaller body and a thin neck, my '94 has a chunky neck, maybe that's the reason. Fat neck, fat sound? I don't know. It came with EMGs which are not sounding organic enough in my opinion. I swapped them and installed different Duncans to find the best sound for me and now it is loaded with a Duncan Invader (unusual, I know) in the bridge and a Hotrails in the neck - perfect. Tried the same with the other Cali but it does not work. The other guitars/ bass are stock and without any changes well balanced.
Dave Scepter Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, VECTOR said: now it is loaded with a Duncan Invader (unusual, I know) Actually, I really like the tone of the Invader... the look, not so much
The Shark Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 4:00 PM, VECTOR said: I know. 2 Calis, 1 Chaparral, 1 Carvin and 1 Yamaha TRB with exactly these specs. And all with ebony fretboards. Only one of the Calis was on the brighter side. In fact I expected the typical 80's George Lynch Sound (cutting) from both Calis and was surprised how balanced one of them was. There are differences between both - the '89 model seems to have a bit smaller body and a thin neck, my '94 has a chunky neck, maybe that's the reason. Fat neck, fat sound? I don't know. It came with EMGs which are not sounding organic enough in my opinion. I swapped them and installed different Duncans to find the best sound for me and now it is loaded with a Duncan Invader (unusual, I know) in the bridge and a Hotrails in the neck - perfect. Tried the same with the other Cali but it does not work. The other guitars/ bass are stock and without any changes well balanced. I hear what I don't like in every all maple guitar with ebony. It's in the mid-range for the most part, but the bright nature of that configuration never escapes me. Just not my cup of tea. And I have a Carvin DC-160. It's the best of the bunch I've owned. But it's still bright and missing the upper mid-range. It's just the guitar that appeared on one of the Carvin catalogs. I think it was 1979. It has the original bridge and tailpiece. Not the crappy one with fine tuners.
VECTOR Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 8 hours ago, The Shark said: I hear what I don't like in every all maple guitar with ebony. It's in the mid-range for the most part, but the bright nature of that configuration never escapes me. Just not my cup of tea. And I have a Carvin DC-160. It's the best of the bunch I've owned. But it's still bright and missing the upper mid-range. It's just the guitar that appeared on one of the Carvin catalogs. I think it was 1979. It has the original bridge and tailpiece. Not the crappy one with fine tuners. Hahaha, all right, so it is a win-win situation. More maple guitars with ebony boards for me and also the "crappy" bridges with the fine tuners. My DC 160 is equipped with it and I like this feature. But honestly I did not have the opportunity to compare to a model with the other bridge. To compensate the pile of maple and ebony one has to fill the space with mahogany and rosewood. So you can justify another (new or vintage) guitar 😉
The Shark Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, VECTOR said: Hahaha, all right, so it is a win-win situation. More maple guitars with ebony boards for me and also the "crappy" bridges with the fine tuners. My DC 160 is equipped with it and I like this feature. But honestly I did not have the opportunity to compare to a model with the other bridge. To compensate the pile of maple and ebony one has to fill the space with mahogany and rosewood. So you can justify another (new or vintage) guitar 😉 I'm just talking tone. And I'm not alone for sure. The worst sounding guitar I ever owned was a Gibson RD Artist that was all maple with a maple board. God awful...
diablo175 Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 I freely confess typically falling in the solid-maple-bodied-guitars-(usually with ebony boards)-aren't-my-cup-of-tea-category. I say this after owning at least 3 solid maple Cali's with various pickups. But THIS one is different with it's maple board. Curious-er still, it features my usually-loathed EMGs. Yet it has a sweet tone that isn't the usual treble-heavy one I've encountered in the past. In fairness, it's also running thru a far-superior amp/FX system to my past rigs. The Fractal Axe FX 3. Could make a big difference.
Bennyboy-UK Posted February 23, 2023 Posted February 23, 2023 9 hours ago, diablo175 said: I freely confess typically falling in the solid-maple-bodied-guitars-(usually with ebony boards)-aren't-my-cup-of-tea-category. I say this after owning at least 3 solid maple Cali's with various pickups. But THIS one is different with it's maple board. Curious-er still, it features my usually-loathed EMGs. Yet it has a sweet tone that isn't the usual treble-heavy one I've encountered in the past. In fairness, it's also running thru a far-superior amp/FX system to my past rigs. The Fractal Axe FX 3. Could make a big difference. Me likey
Nathan of Brainfertilizer Fame Posted February 24, 2023 Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 6:39 PM, diablo175 said: I freely confess typically falling in the solid-maple-bodied-guitars-(usually with ebony boards)-aren't-my-cup-of-tea-category. I say this after owning at least 3 solid maple Cali's with various pickups. But THIS one is different with it's maple board. Curious-er still, it features my usually-loathed EMGs. Yet it has a sweet tone that isn't the usual treble-heavy one I've encountered in the past. In fairness, it's also running thru a far-superior amp/FX system to my past rigs. The Fractal Axe FX 3. Could make a big difference. How many guitars do you currently have? You can tell me to fuck off if you don't want to answer, tho.
diablo175 Posted February 24, 2023 Posted February 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Nathan of Brainfertilizer Fame said: How many guitars do you currently have? You can tell me to fuck off if you don't want to answer, tho. 22 on hand, one in the UK and 2 currently being built. ETA- I forgot the Jackson RR24 I have up on reverb. So, 23 on hand.
Nathan of Brainfertilizer Fame Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 10 hours ago, diablo175 said: 22 on hand, one in the UK and 2 currently being built. ETA- I forgot the Jackson RR24 I have up on reverb. So, 23 on hand. that makes me feel a little better about how many I have, for no reason that I can explain.
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