Marshall amps sold?

[Disturber]

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From their press release:

The Marshall Family will own 24% of the newly formed Marshall Group. Victoria and Terry Marshall – heirs of legendary “Father of Loud” Jim Marshall (d. 2012), who founded the company with his son Terry in 1962 – together with Jim’s granddaughter Joanne Marshall-Price, Paul Marshall and the Marshall Charitable Trust will play key roles within the new entity to ensure the legacy of the famous Marshall sound and brand. Terry and Victoria Marshall will join the board of Marshall Group.
Terry Marshall comments: “Since my father and I created the original Marshall amp back in 1962, we have always looked for ways to deliver the pioneering Marshall sound to music lovers of all backgrounds and music tastes across the world – and I’m confident that the Marshall Group will elevate this mission and spur the love for the Marshall brand.” Victoria Marshall continues: “With Marshall Group, the potential to further impact an ever-modernising music industry is a highly genuine one. Together, we will preserve the Marshall legacy and shape the future of ‘Live Loud’. Having worked alongside my father during his later years, I know he would be excited at this direction and the potential to reach a larger worldwide audience with innovation and passion which he always had in spades.”

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https://www.guitarworld.com/news/marshall-amps-sold-to-swedish-speaker-company

[Steve Haynie]

As long as Marshall keeps production in England it will be OK. 

Sadly, Marshall has some products made in Asia, but not their flagship line.  When Ampeg moved production of the iconic SVT to China and much of the rest of the line to Viet Nam it like the end of the line.  Marshall needs to keep itself British!

[Disturber]

1 hour ago, Steve Haynie said:

As long as Marshall keeps production in England it will be OK. 

Sadly, Marshall has some products made in Asia, but not their flagship line.  When Ampeg moved production of the iconic SVT to China and much of the rest of the line to Viet Nam it like the end of the line.  Marshall needs to keep itself British!

Perhaps they will move production here, to Sweden. The new ABBA signature series and Max Martin ltd 100 watt head (apparently he's got a sick collection of vintage guitar pedals). 

[Biz Prof]

1 hour ago, Disturber said:

Perhaps they will move production here, to Sweden. The new ABBA signature series and Max Martin ltd 100 watt head (apparently he's got a sick collection of vintage guitar pedals). 

I suggest they let Johan Segeborn participate in the managing the product line.  A new feature could be added such that when the amp is taken off standby, it emits a brief "Hi" in a Swedish accent. 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by Biz Prof

[Disturber]

12 hours ago, Biz Prof said:

I suggest they let Johan Segeborn participate in the managing the product line.  A new feature could be added such that when the amp is taken off standby, it emits a brief "Hi" in a Swedish accent. 

 

 

Please just shoot him. 😄

[Biz Prof]

4 hours ago, Disturber said:

Please just shoot him. 😄

[polara]

Did anyone else get stuck on this line?

"...sit under a new privately owned umbrella company..."

[Disturber]

https://www.musicradar.com/news/marshall-chief-exec-jeremy-de-maillard-says-british-amp-company-can-become-a-3-billion-dollar-brand?utm_content=musicradar&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow  

 

Some news on this....

[RobB]

It gets a bit, “eye-rollish”, hearing the bean-counters go on about market share, etc.

I’m glad Marshall is staying European. Surely they fielded offers from all over the world that were more lucrative than what Zounds brought. 

[crunchee]

Maybe they'll finally get around to making Marshall stacks standard equipment in Honda vans:  

 

[tbonesullivan]

Oh wow, a Billion Dollar company? Maybe then they can afford to go back and fix almost the entire run of JCM2000 DSL50, DSL100, TSL60, and TSL100 amplifiers, which if made before 2005 will have their main tube PCB become conductive at high heat, and blow up their tubes.

 

[bruce919]

I had one of those TSL in the late 90's , I dig the tones out of it, but it broke over & over. Sold it off & got a Mesa Trem-o-verb. 

[Jimbilly]

Just keep Fender from buying any portion

[scottcald]

13 hours ago, tbonesullivan said:

Oh wow, a Billion Dollar company? Maybe then they can afford to go back and fix almost the entire run of JCM2000 DSL50, DSL100, TSL60, and TSL100 amplifiers, which if made before 2005 will have their main tube PCB become conductive at high heat, and blow up their tubes.

 

But that must look cool onstage.  🤣

13 hours ago, Jimbilly said:

Just keep Fender from buying any portion

They'd market it as it coming back to where Jim Marshall got his inspiration.  

[tbonesullivan]

On 11/8/2023 at 12:26 AM, scottcald said:

But that must look cool onstage.  🤣

It is! First the loud humming from the amp, the smell as the tolex and everything else gets exposed to high heat, and the tube plates glow all red before either BOOM or VOOM and all the "magic smoke" gets let out of the amp. Mine was fine for years but finally developed symptoms, so now I'm trying to decide whether to get it fixed or junk it. It's the combo so at least I could probably get money for the speakers.

[Cboss]

17 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

It is! First the loud humming from the amp, the smell as the tolex and everything else gets exposed to high heat, and the tube plates glow all red before either BOOM or VOOM and all the "magic smoke" gets let out of the amp. Mine was fine for years but finally developed symptoms, so now I'm trying to decide whether to get it fixed or junk it. It's the combo so at least I could probably get money for the speakers.

In the video he mentions a updated board that supposedly has all the problem fixed being available from Marshall for some unfair price, and all the connections look to be push so it wouldn't be very hard to change out that board, just an option

[tbonesullivan]

9 hours ago, Cboss said:

In the video he mentions a updated board that supposedly has all the problem fixed being available from Marshall for some unfair price, and all the connections look to be push so it wouldn't be very hard to change out that board, just an option

True, and I'm considering it. I've known about the replacement board for a while, but hoped I would get lucky. With Psionic Audio, he won't work on a JCM 2000 unless it's got a recent board, or it is going to get one when he works on it. I did put a lot of miles on it at home back in the day before I got Mesa'd.

[Cboss]

32 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

True, and I'm considering it. I've known about the replacement board for a while, but hoped I would get lucky. With Psionic Audio, he won't work on a JCM 2000 unless it's got a recent board, or it is going to get one when he works on it. I did put a lot of miles on it at home back in the day before I got Mesa'd.

Is Mesa a better amp? More reliable, cares about their customers?  Sounds equal/better?

[RobB]

48 minutes ago, Cboss said:

Is Mesa a better amp? More reliable, cares about their customers?  Sounds equal/better?

Subjective. Yes. Yes.

[Cboss]

Is there a Mesa head that comes to mind as a recommendation?

[RobB]

Definitely. I am partial to .50cal heads. First version had EL34s. The Plus model (the one I own, with EQ) has 6V6’s. Takes a bit of initial fiddling to get a balance between crunch/lead channels. These were marketed as MB’s answer to a Marshall. Tons of gain on tap, super easy to dial in a killer metal tone. More of a raw tone, not as refined as the typical Boogie gain.

These are still priced reasonably compared to other Boogies of their era. I got mine for the stupid low price of $650 at my fave local shop. That’s on the lower end, obviously, but they can be generally had for under a grand. 

Edited November 11, 2023 by RobB

[Dave Scepter]

1 hour ago, Cboss said:

Is there a Mesa head that comes to mind as a recommendation?

If I were you, I'd test one out before making a purchase, as not all Boogies are user friendly/intuitive... such as "depending on the model" sometimes the controls don't make sense... For instance: turning the treble knob may not "just" adjust the treble but also changes the overall tone structure... I've had my share of Boogies and as soon as I bought my Splawns, the Boogies were sold off... ymmv

Edited November 11, 2023 by Dave Scepter

[Dave Scepter]

Duplicate mistake 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Dave Scepter

[RobB]

4 hours ago, Dave Scepter said:

If I were you, I'd test one out before making a purchase, as not all Boogies are user friendly/intuitive... such as "depending on the model" sometimes the controls don't make sense... For instance: turning the treble knob may not "just" adjust the treble but also changes the overall tone structure.

Sound advice (hey, I made a funny!). I went through a few Mesa models (MkIIB, Rectoverb, Stiletto) before I settled on the .50cal. It sounds different than my Splawn Comp or Soldano SLO30. The 5-band EQ allows different shades of brootalz, but it does excellent clean/break-up, as well. All three offer different types of OD. 

Edited November 11, 2023 by RobB

[tbonesullivan]

6 hours ago, Cboss said:

Is Mesa a better amp? More reliable, cares about their customers?  Sounds equal/better?

In some ways they are better amps, though it depends on who you ask. They definitely are more reliable (in my experience), and have a much more active / reliable customer service dept. You can also send amps back to Mesa for service (currently), which is something you can't do with a Marshall.

They also have a LOT more variety in their product line, with a lot more features that you won't see on a Marshall. Another thing that you see is a lot more variety in preamp design, especially whether the tone stack / EQ is before or after the Gain/Volume control on that channel. The classic Mesa Mark series amps have the EQ before the gain and all the gain stages, which is a lot different than a Marshall, which has the EQ at the end with a Cathode follower in most of their modern designs.

The Mesa Rectifier series however are Soldano SLO / Marshall like, so they have post gain stage EQs and cathode followers. The DC series have rhythm channels with a pre-gain EQ, while the lead channel is post gain, just like on the Maverick. The Lone Star series have pre-gain EQs on both channels.

In terms of features, Mesa wins hands down. Better clean channels. Better Reverb for the most part and much more ability to be tweaked, though that also means that a lot of their amps have a learning curve.