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Thanks for the info all. Went with the Yamaha MG12X 12, got a good price on an open box version via Reverb with a 45 day store warranty. Should fit the bill for this band, guitar, bass, keys and drums.
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I'll be dragging my old Yamaha out with the old small rig to support my daughter singing at a wedding tomorrow, I'm excited! Yamaha is a great choice, - among many. Pawns shops and craigs or facebook marketplace should have something. I would add that you might want 16 claimed channels, because you might need them, and a 16 isn't going to cost much more or be much larger than a 12. Also some built in effects for a little reverb, along with sweepable midrange controls (if you want it to sound good), -sweepable mids would be a 'must have' on my list. I have the old Yamaha Mg16/6fx, those should be $200 ish used. Newer stuff probably have all sorts of awesome features, like bluetooth to send music in from your phone etc.
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For rehearsal we used this Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro for quite awhile and it worked just fine until we needed more mic inputs (it claims to be 14 channels!). They make bigger and smaller versions. It's solid and really great for the money ($100-$200 around here), but no onboard effects. Sold it to get this Soundcraft FX16ii, a legitimate 16-channel with 16 actual mic inputs. With ears, it fits in a rack. The built-in effects are decent, although somewhat lacking in adjustability. Tons of ins/outs. $400-$500 used. The only thing I don't care for is there is no resistance in the sliders and it makes them feel cheap (IMO). Or do this (which is the best one for what it all does): Tascam Model 24: 16 actual mic inputs (plus others), built-in effects, AND a 22-track simultaneous digital recorder. Records to a memory card. The effects are good but limited. The faders feel great. It has enough ins and outs to cover pretty much anything (I used it with a 5-piece band, fully mic'd or direct). It'll plug into your computer. They run $1200 new and $700-$800 used. While the learning curve is a little steeper, its a great mixer that just happens to be a great bang-for-the-buck recorder, too. ETA: none of them have wireless/WIFI stuff because that's too hard for my brain.
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Thoughts on Amp Modeling & Neural Captures
santellavision replied to santellavision's topic in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard
Brand new Anderton's video on Modeling. Interesting. -
Cool Chap for sale (not by me). It's located six hours from where I live, so I can not help checking it out. But if anyone is interested I might be able to assist with communicating with the seller. Just send me a pm. About 1400 euros. https://www.blocket.se/recommerce/forsale/item/26660455?finnMail=agent&aur_so=aurora&aur_me=email&aur_ca=search-emailsender&stored-id=4348417&ci=3
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Hamer Newport Pro
scottcald replied to straightblues's topic in For Sale - Wanted to Buy - PIF - eBay & Other PSAs
GLWTS, this is a good price. If I didn't already have one, I'd be looking at it seriously. These are such cool guitars. -
I agree with all of this except for the XR18, in my opinion, you NEED another router/wireless. When I had one and used the internal wireless, it's 802.11g, which is about 4 or 5 generations behind current wifi standards. I found it slow to respond. My 2 cents.
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Random (Music and Guitar Related) Thoughts Thread
django49 replied to LucSulla's topic in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard
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looking at a Sunburst, odd headstock repair?
bruce919 replied to JOE_CPWE's question in Ask the HFC Experts
It has the nut used on guitars with Kahlers in that era. If the pickups are stock, it could be a late 80's If i could be picked up cheap, great. you'll have several hundred at a min. to get the neck fixed correctly. what the serial # ? -
Brian May honoring Steve in a new song. Also Hamer sighting for a 2nd somewhere in the mids of the vid. Billy Gibbons playing guitar too. Bon voyage to Steve.
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looking at a Sunburst, odd headstock repair?
kizanski replied to JOE_CPWE's question in Ask the HFC Experts
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HoboMan started following Some old Blue Oyster Cult.
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Yep, when you say old BOC I'm thinking Secret Treaties and earlier.
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JOE_CPWE started following looking at a Sunburst, odd headstock repair?
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This thing has a lot going for it...very pretty top, og case and has a sustain block BUT but had a headstock repair, 5 years ago they say. Kind of looks like it was glued only, no dowels. For the price they want, I'm leaning in. It's priced like it has an ugly repair. Disclaimer is I've not seen in person, pics only. Assuming it's structurally sound I think I can make the break/repair area look better. What's concerning is the truss rod area. It doesn't look right. It looks like there's more material/distance between the nut and where the truss rod access carve and screw hole for cover should be. Also, you can see the top of the headstock had work. Must've broke clear through. What are you seeing here?
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I have a Behringer XR18r and for the money, you can't beat them for small(ish) band needs. You need a tablet or laptop and a separate router is recommended, you get 18 channels, 6 aux sends, some effects and can save configs. if you go old school analog, I think a new/used Yamaha would be a real safe bet. They're nice, sound good and can be had new/used at a decent price w/ aux send(s), basic effects, compression on a few channels. I have a MG12X I bought used a number of years ago, or maybe the 16 for you? I dislike how they all count channels these days. The 12 is really 8 because they count stereo inputs as two channel. The MX12 has 8 channel faders, so IMO it's an 8 channel mixer. All manufacturers are doing that.
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Thoughts on Amp Modeling & Neural Captures
jisham replied to santellavision's topic in Hamer Fan Club Messageboard
Since I only play at home now, I too have been down the modeler rabbit hole having owned most every one, and some more than once. I finally realized I only need a few amp sounds and a few effects so I’m sticking with 20 watt amps. At least for now.