caliban335 Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 I was out of town & away from the web when the auction ended. I was shocked at the sell price and wish I'd had a chance to weigh in.
Hamerphite Posted June 23, 2009 Author Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do?
atquinn Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do? Very horrible and yes it is the worst possible eBay move one can do. But why the hell do you care what I think?!? -Austin
Hamerphite Posted June 23, 2009 Author Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do? Very horrible and yes it is the worst possible eBay move one can do. But why the hell do you care what I think?!? -Austin Imagine the disappointment of getting a good deal and then the seller saying no. Imagine the pain the family must feel. Imagine the look on the poor child's face.
Lockbody Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do?You should have set a reserve if you weren't prepared to let it go at wherever it ended up.
velorush Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do? Very horrible and yes it is the worst possible eBay move one can do. But why the hell do you care what I think?!? -Austin Imagine the disappointment of getting a good deal and then the seller saying no. Imagine the pain the family must feel. Imagine the look on the poor child's face.
jerseydrew Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do?IMHO, that's BS. You should have set a reserve, or you could have done a "buy it now" with a "best offer" feature. You took a chance, apparently the guitar is only worth $1250. We (the HFC) knew about the auction, yet no one bid. Sorry.BTW, I'm not trying to be a wise ass.
Disturber Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Ebay is not the right place to sell one offs like this. It is better to hang on to the guitar until the right buyer comes along. I've seen some rare Hamer's on ebay with a "buy it now", or high reserve that has been up there for months before they eventually sold. Presumably to a price where the seller felt satisfied he got what the guitar was worth.Someone got the deal of a lifetime on this one. I'm in Europe, and thought it would go much higher, so I did not even check the auction on the last day.I feel sorry for the seller that the times are tough. That guitar should be worth way over double what it sold for.
carfish7 Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Thats worth a solid $2000 in a depression!Nope, sorry but it isn't. Not worth twice the sale amount either, as evidenced by the fact that it was put out for sale to a wide viewing public and they decided what it was "worth".Backing out isn't the WORST thing to do (that would be taking the money and not shipping the guitar), but might be a real hassle - I'm betting the winning bidder would be pissed, but that is all up to you.People should realize that what something is worth is ONLY what someone else is willing to pay for it, and never what the owner feels it should go for. A seller cannot ultimately determine the true "value", only a market can. It is hard to make these adjustments after we just went through a period where there was too much money chasing around goods and driving up the prices artificially, but the days of the "tree-fiddy" Hamer may well be returning, which is good for some, not so good for others. We are in uncharted waters here, folks, and it will require some adjustments to our perception of the value of our stuff.Just my 2 pennies worth.Z
murkat Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Thats worth a solid $2000 in a depression!Nope, sorry but it isn't. Not worth twice the sale amount either, as evidenced by the fact that it was put out for sale to a wide viewing public and they decided what it was "worth".Backing out isn't the WORST thing to do (that would be taking the money and not shipping the guitar), but might be a real hassle - I'm betting the winning bidder would be pissed, but that is all up to you.People should realize that what something is worth is ONLY what someone else is willing to pay for it, and never what the owner feels it should go for. A seller cannot ultimately determine the true "value", only a market can. It is hard to make these adjustments after we just went through a period where there was too much money chasing around goods and driving up the prices artificially, but the days of the "tree-fiddy" Hamer may well be returning, which is good for some, not so good for others. We are in uncharted waters here, folks, and it will require some adjustments to our perception of the value of our stuff.Just my 2 pennies worth.ZHave to agree....My custom order,d spec'd standard went for pennies to the dollar in my opinion, but not the buyers. Was a great deal for the buyer, I live with it. My loss,, there gain. On the flip side, I just recently paid out big bucks for a guitar that I seeked out that a forum member had in his collection, I told him to name his price and I paid what he wanted with no haggling. It is what it is, butthere's that thing known as what the market will dictate. Alot of should haves and could haves in this situation,,, but boills down to grin and bear it and follow threw. Self intregraty and responcibility. Rant done.
burningyen Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Wow, Hamerphite, pulling the guitar now would be really bad form. You gambled and lost, lesson learned; the only honorable thing to do now is to man up. I would hope your reputation means more to you than the money.
MCChris Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250?I say do it.
Pieman Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 I had the guitar on my Ebay watch list and got the morning warning on Saturday, but I was not near a PC near the end of the bidding. What is it worth? I think more that $1251 for sure. I am sure that having one more bidder in the mix would have pushed it to the $1500 -$1700 range which seems more realistic. But $2500 seems high for a Studio even though it has the bridge and Sportomatic on the headstock.Yeah, you could welch on the deal and get the neg feedback but don't try to sell it here. How much do you have in it? Like everything else, it is hard to get last year's prices on just about anything - - cars, homes, and Hamers. As my immigrant gramma used to say: "it is ewasy to buy and hard to sell."
HamerHokie Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 How horrible would it be to tell the winning bidder I can't sell it at that price, and that I'd rather take a negative feedback than sell it for 1250? Is this the worst possible ebay move one can do?Ebay makes it easy to cancel auctions at the last minute to avoid just this scenario. But since you let it run its course, I gotta agree with consensus here - it would be a really bad move. Live and learn - next time do a reserve or minimum bid.
stormywaters Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 That's a tough call. I won't "should have" you, but yeah, that is a real deal for the buyer.If it wasn't for Echeck as the only PP option, I would have thrown my hat into the ring, but 'dems da breaks. If you can live with the negative feedback, screw the buyer. On the flip side, I've had buyers pull out on me after winning an auction, and it sucks, but I've moved on and made the sale anyway. It might not be the right thing to do, but you may feel better about it. Me personally, I would take the negative feedback. Then again, I'm a real asshole, and don't mind people thinking of me as such.
Hamerphite Posted June 23, 2009 Author Posted June 23, 2009 Really? What's the turnoff about eCheck?If it wasn't for Echeck as the only PP option, I would have thrown my hat into the ring, but 'dems da breaks.
stormywaters Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Really? What's the turnoff about eCheck?If it wasn't for Echeck as the only PP option, I would have thrown my hat into the ring, but 'dems da breaks. Can't float it on my credit card for a month.
carfish7 Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Not to totally derail this posting, but I think there is another important lesson here. As we see more and more cool pieces coming out from under the bed as people try and meet their needs, there will be certain unique, collectible pieces being presented for consideration. Marketing the Sporty here first with a set price in mind would be a logical first step I think, as we are the most likely to know what we are being offered. The rest of the buying public (the vast majority I'll bet) just saw a cool arch-top Hamer and nothing more - certainly not a one-of-a-kind piece that is basically unobtainium. Maybe Hamer would make you one, but it would be expensive. I guess what I'm getting at is that certain pieces are so unique, very few people know about them, and will not be inclined to see the added "value" in the rarity. It's too bad one of us hasn't been saving up for the last few years waiting for this to become available (like I am with Crabby's Trans-red Koa Mirage ) so it could have fetched a bit more, but it might have only been a tiny bit, who knows. On the plus side, there are some very sweet deals available for those with discretionary guitar funds that are still fat. I, however, am not in that category. I hope this all works out for you Hamerphite. Z
cornjulio Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Sorry Dude, I agree it should have gone for more as you were selling a great guitar that you'll probably miss in the future....I hope this someone will get really lucky with a fantastic guitar!Ebay is tough and I guess there would have been a few guys on HFC to make better offers (not the fockin' threefifty of course).Next time....
MCChris Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 A deal is a deal.Except on eBay. Keep the guitar, tell the high bidder to get bent, wait for the scathing, profanity-laced negative feedback, never be able to sell on that cesspool again.Personally I can't think of a more entertaining scenario.
Aceldama Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Email him this:Hey Mate,Complain/Whine/Moan however you like -INSERT BUYERS FIRST NAME-, Ill be there in 6 months time and it'll be a pleasure to meet ya, maybe we can have a drink at ya local? Is there one on -INSERT SHIPPING STREET-? I've got mates in -INSERT NAME OF NEARBY SEEDY AREA- but they tell me its a rough cunt of a place. Is -INSERT SHIP TO CITY- any better? All the best for the future bruz remember we all create our own destiny this is just another step along the way,,,,-INSERT YOUR NAME-,,,
Guest pirateflynn Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 A deal is a deal.Except on eBay. Keep the guitar, tell the high bidder to get bent, wait for the scathing, profanity-laced negative feedback, never be able to sell on that cesspool again.Personally I can't think of a more entertaining scenario.Ridiculous, but funny.
carfish7 Posted June 23, 2009 Posted June 23, 2009 A deal is a deal. Except on eBay. Keep the guitar, tell the high bidder to get bent, wait for the scathing, profanity-laced negative feedback, never be able to sell on that cesspool again. Personally I can't think of a more entertaining scenario. Some would say it is a legal contract and all..................... I might tend to agree with the Muse here about Ebay in general, but backing out WILL likely generate a shitstorm of some sort. You might ask yourself why you put it up in the first place and if you can honestly, realistically do better next time $$$-wise. You may wind up with less! It might not be the best idea to mull your options in public like this, either, in case you do pull out, even though no one cane MAKE you sell it for the final auction price. There may be much wailing and gnashing of teeth to come, so hopefully Muse is making some popcorn. Just sayin'. Be careful what you say and where you say/post it if you intend to piss someone off soon. Z
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