BadgerDave Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Link to the most astounding innovation in the history of the guitarReally?
MCChris Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Marketing copywriters should all be taken out back and shot.Oh wait .....
cmatthes Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 My favorite post about it - "Ninja Pigeon"!!!! That's perfect:And what is it with all the over-the-top names? Dork Fire, Duck Tiger. Geez. Ninja Pigeon is up next. One could *wish* that these guitars were even close to being techno wonders. The Dark Fire was a disaster of a guitar, the styling silly, the electronics begging to be replaced from the first get-go, the user interface amazingly complicated for simple pickup switching, the robot tuners incapable of doing a large number of useful alternate tunings without a string change. Dusk Tiger -- yet another candidate for the Wall of What Were They Smoking When They Came Up With This Guitars. Gibson, there IS technology out there. You COULD be using it. But your design team is mired somewhere between walkers and whacko, between geriatric and gonzo. It's neither right nor left brain -- more along the lines of brain stem. Keep at it, though -- you guys are gonna fight yourself right into the 21st century, just about the time that we're leaving the 22nd...Link here for more comments - http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=po...amp;#post331390
Feynman Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 I think it's a good looking guitar. I don't suppose it's going to sell for $1299 is it?
atquinn Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Les Paul dies and they start coming out with all these crazy-ass guitars that were closer to what he wanted than the actual iconic LP. It's like rayeeane on your wedding day... -Austin
cmatthes Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 marketing does alot of bad dope. That must be it. I mean, Gibson was really headed on a great path in the late '80s and into the '90s, and still had a solid foot on the ground 6-7 years ago. Solid guitars and things that people wanted. Stuff like this and some of the other hare-brained ideas that I've seen just make me wonder. Just coming out with something for goofiness' sake really hurts. The focus really should be on the stuff they already do right, like the majority of the CS/Historic lines. Work on that and on steady improvement of QC in the mass production lines and they'll be getting more people interested. The whole "Lifestyle" thing has started to really warp things. Henry, Henry, Henry...
tommy p Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Somebody's flirting with getting raided again!A friend who works at a music store asked a Gibson rep why they charge so much for their guitars and his reply was "because we can". I can't believe anyone buys this crap! Couldn't they just go back to making LP Customs, Standards, and Specials, SG's, and Explorers in a few cool finishes?
Moose Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 so:offers an unprecedented wealth of featuresandsimply the most astounding innovation in the history of the guitarand they only get two bullet points before they have to throw out the generic "And much much more?"Geez, You'd think they could come up with a pretty good laundry list with such unrepresented wealth to draw from.Marketing copywriters should all be taken out back and shot.Oh wait .....At least when our local copy writer produces ads, there are nekkid boobies and silicon toys in 'em.I'm waiting for you to use "Unrepresented wealth of features" and then come up with two or three bullet items. "Washable", "Battery not included" and "Much much more..."
unfun75 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 I get it... all this new crap can only increase the value of the desired vintage stuff.
serial Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 I have two Gibson Historics (FB1 and R4 Goldtop), a Norlin-era Deluxe and an 80s Standard. The Standard needs new tuners, but is otherwise a great guitar. The other three? Spectacular guitars.I know Gibson mgmt often gives the haters fodder, but they can make some great guitars.
killerteddybear Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 I think it's a good looking guitar. I don't suppose it's going to sell for $1299 is it? In a year or so, it'll be $859, right next to the robot Les Pauls at GC... Gibson should realize they're famous for a few of their early designs, stick with making those as best they can, and leave the 'innovation' to smaller companies that aren't so iconic. Companies like Gibson and Fender have such successful designs that they'll always have a hard time breaking from the very molds they made. A better strategy would be to set up smaller companies under their respective umbrellas and let them do the innovation, with less risk to the monolithic brand names. Man, that was a bad dose of verbal diarreah...
bubs_42 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Les Paul dies and they start coming out with all these crazy-ass guitars that were closer to what he wanted than the actual iconic LP. It's like rayeeane on your wedding day... -Austin Spot On, that has LP Recording all over it.
gorch Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Marketing is it all. Dress-up the Duotone and Hamer's surfing the same wafe.For the import line it could make a hit.
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