DaveL Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 found this in the used section of my local store earlier this summer... once had an epiphone LP that the previous owner (an engineer) rewired with Duncan's CTS pots and orange drop caps... was pretty cool, still had that crap metal bridge so still wasn't all the way there, but it got me thinkin there were a couple things I had in mind when I started it #1, I got it cheap, so I felt I had some room to play, nice neck, frets like new #2 didn't want to put a lot into it #3 do everything myself. #4 these are relatively rare, if it came out right it might be pretty cool... and I'm a schenker UFO, Pete Way fan from way back. #5 where the hell am I gonna get a schenker guard? parts list... a lot of the stuff, tonepros, pots, caps, pickups, were from my parts box... only thing I really needed was the guard, bone nut and rings CTS pots orange drop cap tone pros large post bridge and tailpiece All Parts slotted bone nut for epi Duncan JB and 59 Dimarzio black rings white WD single ply 67 reissue guard (thin version, not the beveled one) switchcraft jack and switch and the key ingredient... stuff to make the pickguard half black... pics the way it came... this was a guitar of the month back in 05 or so, it was not advertised as a schenker model. which I think may be why it has a plain white guard... nut and original posts removed as you can see, the white guard looks weird... had done some research, and saw a few people were cutting black and white guards and fitting them together... the only problem was that the WD guards were $30 a piece, and you'd need two, then need some kind of jewelers saw (or a buddy with access to some good tools)... but... if you screwed up, you'd be out like $80... way too risky if you ask me... and I had already blown $15 on a guitar fetish guard, was not even CLOSE to being right.... briefly spoke to WD, they will actually make you a schenker guard (they'd take two pieces of acrylic and glue them together then cut the guard), but it's well over $100. sooo... started researching all kind of contact paper color adhesive laminates etc... found some material that people use to trick out their Honda civics, a stretchy plastic looking vinyl adhesive that won't come off. I also chose a white guard, so I would only have to worry about applying black vinyl pvc to a relatively small area on the upper guard. The other side would have been too tricky, air bubbles etc... guard and adhesive vinyl arrived... came out pretty good. bridge holes don't line up exactly , but going to have to live with that... going to start wiring this weekend. once I get that done, I'll start fitting the bone nut, which is already rough carved and fitted.
FrankieIII Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Cool. How about a clear pickguard and mask it off and paint it half black/half white on the back side, which should come out looking very shiny, and would probably look factory if done well, when viewed from the front side....
Armitage Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 I have one of the ESP/Edwards Schenker guitars... as cool as it is, it's a copy of his and his #1 and #2 and they were years with extra thin bodies. So they're a bit neck heavy. Doing your own with an Epiphone is a great idea. I always loved the black/white sceme.
zorrow Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I have one of the ESP/Edwards Schenker guitars... as cool as it is, it's a copy of his and his #1 and #2 and they were years with extra thin bodies. So they're a bit neck heavy. Doing your own with an Epiphone is a great idea. I always loved the black/white sceme. For a long time I was drooling about the Edwards, but I tried one not so long ago and didn't like it. It's a too slim guitar for my tastes -slim body, thin neck... Certainly well-built but not my stuff at all. The Epis however, those are sturdy, with thicker necks and heavier bodies. I just love them, and I even prefer the SG Epis to their Gibby counterparts. That's why I was about to say I don't think that Schenker Epi is a pig. It's just a player's axe, a tool made for the working men. Give me an Epi anytime, and I'll be happy, seriously.
RobB Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 VERY sharp, Dave! Great idea using the vinyl sheeting... Wait'll ya'll see what I got in store for my white, Gibson V.
DaveL Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 thanks for the comments everyone... zorrow, yeah, I agree solidly build, just not crazy about the points of contact (bridge nut electronics) That said, I'm pretty happy... took some guitar that couldn't find a home (was priced CHEEP that's all I'll say) and if all goes well with the nut, I'll have something pretty cool... rob, definitely post what you have... btw: the Gibson rudy schenker V caught my eye, will keep an eye out when they start hitting the used market. One string, nut going on this weekend.... electronics worked great, I'm starting to get better with soldering iron... one level above hack.
Brooks Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 cool! now pull an assault attack on a mercedes, ha
DaveL Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 thanks... forgot to post these. now completed, decided to stop short of cutting the nut slots myself, got a nice assist from Thundernotes who recommended a local luthier who helped cut the nut slots and final setup, came out great he turned it around in a day and was very reasonable.
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found this in the used section of my local store earlier this summer... once had
an epiphone LP that the previous owner (an engineer) rewired with Duncan's CTS
pots and orange drop caps... was pretty cool, still had that crap metal bridge so still
wasn't all the way there, but it got me thinkin
there were a couple things I had in mind when I started it
#1, I got it cheap, so I felt I had some room to play, nice neck, frets like new
#2 didn't want to put a lot into it
#3 do everything myself.
#4 these are relatively rare, if it came out right it might be pretty cool... and I'm a schenker
UFO, Pete Way fan from way back.
#5 where the hell am I gonna get a schenker guard?
parts list... a lot of the stuff, tonepros, pots, caps, pickups, were from my parts
box... only thing I really needed was the guard, bone nut and rings
CTS pots
orange drop cap
tone pros large post bridge and tailpiece
All Parts slotted bone nut for epi
Duncan JB and 59
Dimarzio black rings
white WD single ply 67 reissue guard (thin version, not the beveled one)
switchcraft jack and switch
and the key ingredient... stuff to make the pickguard half black...
pics the way it came... this was a guitar of the month back in 05 or so, it was not advertised as a schenker model.
which I think may be why it has a plain white guard...
nut and original posts removed
as you can see, the white guard looks weird... had done some research, and saw a few people were cutting black and white
guards and fitting them together... the only problem was that the WD guards were $30 a piece, and you'd need two, then
need some kind of jewelers saw (or a buddy with access to some good tools)... but... if you screwed up, you'd be out like
$80... way too risky if you ask me... and I had already blown $15 on a guitar fetish guard, was not even CLOSE to
being right.... briefly spoke to WD, they will actually make you a schenker guard (they'd take two pieces of acrylic and
glue them together then cut the guard), but it's well over $100. sooo... started researching all kind of contact paper
color adhesive laminates etc... found some material that people use to trick out their Honda civics, a stretchy plastic
looking vinyl adhesive that won't come off. I also chose a white guard, so I would only have to worry about
applying black vinyl pvc to a relatively small area on the upper guard. The other side would have been too tricky,
air bubbles etc...
guard and adhesive vinyl arrived... came out pretty good. bridge holes don't line up exactly , but going to have to live with that...
going to start wiring this weekend. once I get that done, I'll start fitting the bone nut, which is already rough carved and fitted.
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