gorch Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 I bought the THE BOOK though. Since it seems being overworked, it is not original anymore. Therefore, not worth the price, especially on a pickup change.
Jem Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 I was supposed to buy that back in 2005 when it was originally for sale. The middleman friend of Martin's handling the deal was out of town and screwed up and couldn't pull the auction in time and it sold to this guy instead.....for LESS than the price I'd agreed to.Then the middleman was afraid to honor our deal and get negative feedback. Crazy......but this guy paid less than half what he has it up for.I remember when it was on ebay.uk. I think it was listed at least twice, could be more, as it didn't sell. It was listed for over 10 000 £ then too, if I remember it correctly. Might be that it dropped to 7500£ after a few tries at selling it for over 10 000£. It must have sold for between 7 500 and 10 000 pounds in 2005.It was discussed here on the HFC, so might be someone else who remembers too?Yep, i remember the discussion and yes, i'm sure it dropped to around the £8000 mark on Ebay but christ knows what the end result was.
gatorbyte007 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Pretty sure it will sell ! He has more than 1 deal on the table... It's going to be interesting to say the least.
humfree Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 This should be the guitar: I believe this video actually made me aware of the Standard.. my heart still skips a beat when I hear the opening notes.. hehehe.. Cheers!
Cary Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 I personally don't think that's a stretch pricewise for what it is. He just might get it. Maybe not this time around, and maybe a die hard Tull fan instead of a player/collector, but I would value that one in that range, for sure.I agree with Chris. If the pick-ups aren't original, that's a concern. However, given what regular Standards and four digit Standards are going for, I don't think $15K to $20K is a stretch by any means. It's 0002, for chrissakes! How much are vintage Les Pauls, Tele's and Strat's going for? If I had "fuck you money", it would be on it's way to my house already.
foodermon Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Yeah. Distinctly remember this one on eBay first time around .. 2x actually. Back then thought worth the price given what it is. At that same time period unmolested 4 digits were going roughly half of asking prices today. Some would likely say 1/4.. So potentially 20k usd for some providence? I can see it.
matchful Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 How do we know that the pickups aren't original? I thought the first few ones were double cremes on both positions.
RichRS6 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 The pickups look the same in the Heavy Horses clip so I would suggest they're original to Martins ownership, I wondered if it would have had PAFs, there aren't many earlier Standards..The neck one looks like it could be a Dimarzio Super distortion but the slugs look black.
HamStd Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 I think Steve is referring to the fact that at some point 0002 had a double black bobbin pickup in the lead position. As pictured in the original Hamer catalog gatefold. Rich, you are correct that when it was up for auction the last time around it had a pair of double crème bobbin pickups in it.Peter
RichRS6 Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Just checked the clip to make sure and if it is the same guitar in the clip it had a double cream in the neck then.
RichRS6 Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 Looks like its gone.Either a change of mind (or an off ebay deal.Anyone here snag it ?Peter ?
murkat Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 The pickups look the same in the Heavy Horses clip so I would suggest they're original to Martins ownership, I wondered if it would have had PAFs, there aren't many earlier Standards.. The neck one looks like it could be a Dimarzio Super distortion but the slugs look black. the early super d's had just regular machined hex screws, non chromed, they were black. Like you would find at an Ace Hardware store
Guest gearwhore Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 Looks like its gone.Either a change of mind (or an off ebay deal.Anyone here snag it ?Peter ?dang I never had a chance..I have some to come look at my backhoe today..I was going to make a run at it.
serial Posted April 24, 2014 Posted April 24, 2014 My thoughts came from discussions with an owner. The original had old PAFs, which by themselves would make the price absolutely fair, if not a steal. I could be completely wrong, but I had a vague recollection that the pickups in it now were something else other than old PAFs. They are certainly different than the pickups that were original to the guitar. Martin Barre could certainly have swapped them out at any point if that was the case. I couldn't locate my emails, so the best course for someone interested would be to check with the seller to confirm.Double creams were never an established issue. On the first few guitars, there were several pickup mixes-my '76 has a zebra in the bridge/double cream in the neck.
Andrew Posted April 24, 2014 Author Posted April 24, 2014 I would guess the neck pickup is original but the bridge has been changed. I believe 0002 was the original catalogue guitar. Either the original PAF died and was replaced, or someone removed and cashed in on it (would Martin Barre really do that?).
serial Posted April 24, 2014 Posted April 24, 2014 Yes-this is the catalog guitar. Also from the first strip ad in Guitar Player from 1975.
whiskeyzulu Posted April 24, 2014 Posted April 24, 2014 Looks like its gone.Either a change of mind (or an off ebay deal.Anyone here snag it ?Peter ?Seller had a change of heart
sixesandsevens Posted April 25, 2014 Posted April 25, 2014 The seller couldn't drum up the matching monocle from the video, so he had to delist it.
Disturber Posted April 25, 2014 Posted April 25, 2014 I would guess the neck pickup is original but the bridge has been changed. I believe 0002 was the original catalogue guitar.Either the original PAF died and was replaced, or someone removed and cashed in on it (would Martin Barre really do that?).Or Martin, like so many other players in the 70's, wanted something hotter in the bridge. Super Distortions were the fasion of the day back then.
RichRS6 Posted April 25, 2014 Posted April 25, 2014 I would guess the neck pickup is original but the bridge has been changed. I believe 0002 was the original catalogue guitar.Either the original PAF died and was replaced, or someone removed and cashed in on it (would Martin Barre really do that?).Or Martin, like so many other players in the 70's, wanted something hotter in the bridge. Super Distortions were the fasion of the day back then.This is the most likely answer.
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