Bad Memory Lane: 10 years ago today, the beginning of the end

[Tortious]

🤬  It seemed pretty obvious, but still quite sucked.

 

[beezerboy]

a day that will live in infamy 

[tweed]

Y'know, I really think the guitar world will never know what it missed. 

[Rich_S]

Hamer is dead.  Long live Hamer.

[kizanski]

41 minutes ago, beezerboy said:

The day before a day that will live in infamy 

Edited, slightly.  

[DaveL]

1 hour ago, Tortious said:

🤬  It seemed pretty obvious, but still quite sucked.

 

Oh It was just that their “appeal is becoming more selective!”

 

 

[beezerboy]

58 minutes ago, kizanski said:

Edited, slightly.  

actually Roosevelt said "December 7, a date that will live in infamy".

and I thought about this & wondered if it would tick someone off. that was not my intentions

[kizanski]

2 minutes ago, beezerboy said:

actually Roosevelt said "December 7, a date that will live in infamy".

and I thought about this & wondered if it would tick someone off. that was not my intentions

Yeah, I know what he said.   It's been 81 years.  I think you can safely quote Roosevelt at this point.  

[JGale]

I think he was speaking metaphorically. The thick piece of wood in your hands thing...

[HSB0531]

3 hours ago, Tortious said:

🤬  It seemed pretty obvious, but still quite sucked.

After wanting one since 1978 (saw Cheap Trick at The Calderone in Long Island NY), I ordered my Black Standard 12 String Bass on July 28th 2008 from Greg at BCR and it arrived in January of 2010.   I'm so glad I got mine before the end.

 

[bry4321]

19 hours ago, Tortious said:

🤬  It seemed pretty obvious, but still quite sucked.

 

Thanks for sharing that link. Hope your thread does not devolve into Jobs vs. Gates 2022 🤣 

 

[RobB]

KMC/Hamer pretty much wrote the book on the wrong way to promote your brand. In retrospect, it seems like the whole era was a vanity project for the young Kaman. 

PRS, Schecter, ESP, and Dean all flourished. They seemed to have the formula for MI success, whereas Hamer snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It’s a darn shame. 

[kizanski]

1 hour ago, RobB said:

KMC/Hamer pretty much wrote the book the wrong way to promote your brand. In retrospect, it seems like the whole era was a vanity project for the young Kaman. 

PRS, Schecter, ESP, and Dean all flourished. They seemed to have the formula for MI success, whereas Hamer snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It’s a darn shame. 

1000%

They could be cited in business schools as an example of what not to do.  

[Tortious]

9 hours ago, bry4321 said:

Thanks for sharing that link. Hope your thread does not devolve into Jobs vs. Gates 2022 🤣 

 

I had some high hopes when it almost immediately went into Pearl Harbor sensitivity! 🤩

It is interesting to see the perspectives at the time.

[Crimsontider]

On 12/6/2022 at 6:21 PM, DaveL said:

Oh It was just that their “appeal is becoming more selective!”

 

 

Classic.  Bring back the USA Californian on a production line as close to old specs as possible and sell at $3,000 a pop.  Like Fender is doing with Chavel and Jackson USA models.

[Tortious]

25 minutes ago, Crimsontider said:

Classic.  Bring back the USA Californian on a production line as close to old specs as possible and sell at $3,000 a pop.  Like Fender is doing with Chavel and Jackson USA models.

Not likely/possible. The brand is presently owned by Exertis/DCC, a conglomerate that does not appear all that focused on instruments. https://www.exertis.com/

They own Jam Industries, which is somewhat focused on musical things. https://jamindustries.com/

Looking through that, I don't even see the Hamer name listed any longer, makes me think they may have discontinued their last attempt at imports using the name.

Maybe it's for sale again. Maybe not. At any rate, I don't see a resurrection like you envisioned happening any time soon.

[mathman]

The talented artisans who crafted these guitars are not coming back, so neither are the guitars.   Replicas, maybe, quality replica's? possible. but the Hamer as we know it are done.

[Crimsontider]

Wishful thinking.  Recently watched a Hamer shop documentary again and was reminded of the painstaking detail they put in crafting their guitars.  Amazing.  That you couldn't replicate. Gone. 

[cmatthes]

2 hours ago, Tortious said:

Not likely/possible. The brand is presently owned by Exertis/DCC, a conglomerate that does not appear all that focused on instruments. https://www.exertis.com/

They own Jam Industries, which is somewhat focused on musical things. https://jamindustries.com/

Looking through that, I don't even see the Hamer name listed any longer, makes me think they may have discontinued their last attempt at imports using the name.

Maybe it's for sale again. Maybe not. At any rate, I don't see a resurrection like you envisioned happening any time soon.

Exactly.

They destroyed whatever equity the brand name held.  Hamer is gone, gone, gone.

[gorch]

5 hours ago, Crimsontider said:

Wishful thinking.  Recently watched a Hamer shop documentary again and was reminded of the painstaking detail they put in crafting their guitars.  Amazing.  That you couldn't replicate. Gone. 

A good reason to keep the guitars and play them.