79Sunburst Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 https://reverb.com/item/80755315?utm_source=android-app&utm_medium=android-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=80755315 5 Quote
Victor (Fret Friend) Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 That's a lot of money with de-Kahlering of that quality (not great). With a better match/finish maybe but... 5 Quote
DaveL Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 (edited) I am pretty sure I owned that guitar in the 90's. If it's the same one, I think the original ship date was 8/28/81 or 82? I found it for $225 in the Want Advertiser (a print version of craigslist or the recycler in the Boston area) I later sold it for $350... I made bank! not... one of my many stupid moves to come. I despised the kahler so much (it had a wierd black plate to cover the stop tail holes), it just ruined it for me This was a couple years before the HFC. Had I known, I would have gone with a nice veneer with vintage correct curly maple rather than a patch... I remember there was alot of chipping at the headstock where the kahler nut was, I will say it looks alot better than it used to... Edited September 5, 2024 by DaveL 6 Quote
79Sunburst Posted September 5, 2024 Author Posted September 5, 2024 If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. 1 Quote
kizanski Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 23 minutes ago, 79Sunburst said: If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. 4 1 Quote
79Sunburst Posted September 5, 2024 Author Posted September 5, 2024 1 hour ago, kizanski said: Woah! Is that yours? Quote
kizanski Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, 79Sunburst said: Woah! Is that yours? It was. Here's some history for you. 2 Quote
79Sunburst Posted September 5, 2024 Author Posted September 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, kizanski said: It was. Here's some history for you. Thanks Kizanski. I like the cut of your jib. It looks fantastic. 1 Quote
Joe mama Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 5:47 AM, 79Sunburst said: If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. what are the other repairs you see? 1 Quote
Joe mama Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/5/2024 at 12:24 AM, 79Sunburst said: https://reverb.com/item/80755315?utm_source=android-app&utm_medium=android-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=80755315 Does not look like a refinished guitar at all.. How did you come up with that? 1 Quote
Eli Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 That Kahler repair is so less than great, it makes me want to put a Kahler back on it! 4 Quote
crunchee Posted September 9, 2024 Posted September 9, 2024 Seller is Galaxy Music Company in CA, huh? The asking price is astronomical for sure! 1 Quote
HSB0531 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 20 minutes ago, crunchee said: Seller is Galaxy Music Company in CA, huh? The asking price is astronomical for sure! Yep, and for that money they should have first filled in the hole with a billet of mahogany, replaced the entire veneer top, and reshot it in Transparent Red. 2 Quote
HSB0531 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Joe mama said: what are the other repairs you see? There's another picture on the sellers page with a closeup of the bridge area. You can see the lack of quality work done in that pic. Also: 4-digit Hamer guitars and basses had wider spaced dot markers on the 12th fret. So it could have been either a fretboard replacement, or maybe they ran out of the older fretboards? 2 Quote
cynic Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Eli said: That Kahler repair is so less than great, it makes me want to put a Kahler back on it! 29 minutes ago, HSB0531 said: There's another picture on the sellers page with a closeup of the bridge area. You can see the lack of quality work done in that pic. Also: 4-digit Hamer guitars and basses had wider spaced dot markers on the 12th fret. So it could have been either a fretboard replacement, or maybe they ran out of the older fretboards? Unless it was repaired in the manner requested by the owner, then it’s a perfect repair. Sunbursts also stopped using the wide octave dots after ‘79. I believe it was the same across the brand. 4 Quote
HSB0531 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 23 minutes ago, cynic said: Unless it was repaired in the manner requested by the owner, then it’s a perfect repair. Sunbursts also stopped using the wide octave dots after ‘79. I believe it was the same across the brand. I guess the owner or the seller opted for the cheapest repair, and mechanically its a perfectly acceptable repair but: https://reverb.com/item/80755315-hamer-standard-1982-red-4-digit?utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=80755315&utm_medium=android-share&utm_source=android-app this workmanship to me, doesn't warranty a $8,699.00 price tag. I don't know enough about the Sunbursts to say what the timeline was I was only referring to the 4-digit guitars/basses. But yeah they still had the wide spaced dots in 1981 at least: https://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/attachments/ 2 Quote
cmatthes Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 Take off $2500 for lack of original HSC. That's a mid-2000s case. 2 Quote
HSB0531 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, cmatthes said: Take off $2500 for lack of original HSC. That's a mid-2000s case. And no "USA" after Hamer Lucky for me I still have the original flight case and receipt that says #0531 came from Hamer in a Calzone case.😁 Unluckily for me, #0531 isn't a guitar. Edited September 10, 2024 by HSB0531 Quote
HSB0531 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 14 hours ago, crunchee said: Seller is Galaxy Music Company in CA, huh? The asking price is astronomical for sure! Yes it was on the Starship Enterprise and just came back from a 5 year mission. https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/startrekintro.html The crew signed the back of the control cover. Quote
Hamerica Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, Joe mama said: Does not look like a refinished guitar at all.. How did you come up with that? Good afternoon @Joe mama https://reverb.com/item/73489726-1979-1981-hamer-usa-standard-explorer-flame-top-transparent-cherry-kahler-trem-extremely-rare-original-hamer-case-four-digit-serial-0583 Same guitar last year different dealer with Kahler. @DaveL Interesting, and if so nice recall. I don't believe this guitar was posted prior to last year, however, I could be wrong. I wonder who did the refin? Hamerica Edited September 10, 2024 by Hamerica 1 Quote
DaveL Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 46 minutes ago, Hamerica said: Good afternoon @Joe mama https://reverb.com/item/73489726-1979-1981-hamer-usa-standard-explorer-flame-top-transparent-cherry-kahler-trem-extremely-rare-original-hamer-case-four-digit-serial-0583 Same guitar last year different dealer with Kahler. @DaveL Interesting, and if so nice recall. I don't believe this guitar was posted prior to last year, however, I could be wrong. I wonder who did the refin? Hamerica yes, I called into Hamer at the time and spoke to Jim Allen, I remember that date was my wedding anniversary, my first one... lol. at the time, I thought it had what looked like the original case... 2 Quote
Joe mama Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 20 hours ago, HSB0531 said: Yep, and for that money they should have first filled in the hole with a billet of mahogany, replaced the entire veneer top, and reshot it in Transparent Red. what should the price be? 1 Quote
bry4321 Posted September 10, 2024 Posted September 10, 2024 I think whenever someone says “that price is outrageous” they should be required to offer something equally cool for a lower price 🤣🤘 It is helpful to see what people think things are worth though to be honest. 😇 Quote
crunchee Posted September 11, 2024 Posted September 11, 2024 37 minutes ago, bry4321 said: I think whenever someone says “that price is outrageous” they should be required to offer something equally cool for a lower price 🤣🤘 It is helpful to see what people think things are worth though to be honest. 😇 Tree Fitty works for me, that's the old HFC rule of thumb IIRC. 2 Quote
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