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That's a lot of money with de-Kahlering of that quality (not great). With a better match/finish maybe but...

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   I am pretty sure I owned that guitar in the 90's.  If it's the same one,  I think the original ship date was

8/28/81 or 82?  I found it for $225 in the Want Advertiser  (a print version of craigslist or the recycler in the Boston

area)   I later sold it for $350...  I made bank!   not...   one of my many stupid moves to come.   

 

  I despised the kahler so much (it had a wierd black plate to cover the stop tail holes), it just ruined it for me 

This was a couple years before the HFC.  Had I known,  I would have gone with a nice veneer with

vintage correct curly maple rather than a patch...       

 

  I remember there was alot of chipping at the headstock where the kahler nut was,   I will say it looks alot better

than it used to...  

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If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed  and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. 

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23 minutes ago, 79Sunburst said:

If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed  and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. 

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On 9/5/2024 at 5:47 AM, 79Sunburst said:

If I owned that guitar with all the visible repairs made to it. I would have the fingerboard removed  and replace it with an ebony board bound and crowned and simply have it refinished black. Had it never been Kahlered, I wouldn't have done anything at all to it. 

what are the other repairs you see?

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That Kahler repair is so less than great, it makes me want to put a Kahler back on it!

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20 minutes ago, crunchee said:

Seller is Galaxy Music Company in CA, huh?  The asking price is astronomical for sure!  :rolleyes:;):lol:

Yep, and for that money they should have first filled in the hole with a billet of mahogany, replaced the entire veneer top, and reshot it in Transparent Red.

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1 hour ago, Joe mama said:

what are the other repairs you see?

There's another picture on the sellers page with a closeup of the bridge area. You can see the lack of quality work done in that pic.

Also: 4-digit Hamer guitars and basses had wider spaced dot markers on the 12th fret.  So it could have been either a fretboard replacement, or maybe they ran out of the older fretboards?

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1 hour ago, Eli said:

That Kahler repair is so less than great, it makes me want to put a Kahler back on it!

 

29 minutes ago, HSB0531 said:

There's another picture on the sellers page with a closeup of the bridge area. You can see the lack of quality work done in that pic.

Also: 4-digit Hamer guitars and basses had wider spaced dot markers on the 12th fret.  So it could have been either a fretboard replacement, or maybe they ran out of the older fretboards?

Unless it was repaired in the manner requested by the owner, then it’s a perfect repair. 
 

Sunbursts also stopped using the wide octave dots after ‘79. I believe it was the same across the brand. 

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23 minutes ago, cynic said:

 

Unless it was repaired in the manner requested by the owner, then it’s a perfect repair. 
 

Sunbursts also stopped using the wide octave dots after ‘79. I believe it was the same across the brand. 

I guess the owner or the seller opted for the cheapest repair, and mechanically its a perfectly acceptable repair but: https://reverb.com/item/80755315-hamer-standard-1982-red-4-digit?utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=80755315&utm_medium=android-share&utm_source=android-app  this workmanship to me, doesn't warranty a $8,699.00 price tag.

I don't know enough about the Sunbursts to say what the timeline was I was only referring to the 4-digit guitars/basses.  But yeah they still had the wide spaced dots in 1981 at least: https://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/attachments/

 

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Take off $2500 for lack of original HSC.

That's a mid-2000s case.

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11 hours ago, cmatthes said:

Take off $2500 for lack of original HSC.

That's a mid-2000s case.

And no "USA" after Hamer

Lucky for me I still have the original flight case and receipt that says #0531 came from Hamer in a Calzone case.😁

Unluckily for me, #0531 isn't a guitar.

 

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14 hours ago, crunchee said:

Seller is Galaxy Music Company in CA, huh?  The asking price is astronomical for sure!  :rolleyes:;):lol:

Yes it was on the Starship Enterprise and just came back from a 5 year mission. https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/startrekintro.html

The crew signed the back of the control cover.

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16 hours ago, Joe mama said:

Does not look like a refinished guitar at all..

How did you come up with that?

Good afternoon @Joe mama

https://reverb.com/item/73489726-1979-1981-hamer-usa-standard-explorer-flame-top-transparent-cherry-kahler-trem-extremely-rare-original-hamer-case-four-digit-serial-0583

Same guitar last year different dealer with Kahler.

@DaveL

Interesting, and if so nice recall. 

I don't believe this guitar was posted prior to last year, however, I could be wrong. 

I wonder who did the refin? 

Hamerica

 

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46 minutes ago, Hamerica said:

Good afternoon @Joe mama

https://reverb.com/item/73489726-1979-1981-hamer-usa-standard-explorer-flame-top-transparent-cherry-kahler-trem-extremely-rare-original-hamer-case-four-digit-serial-0583

Same guitar last year different dealer with Kahler.

@DaveL

Interesting, and if so nice recall. 

I don't believe this guitar was posted prior to last year, however, I could be wrong. 

I wonder who did the refin? 

Hamerica

 

 

  yes,  I called into Hamer at the time and spoke to Jim Allen,   I remember that date was my wedding

anniversary, my first one...  lol.        at the time,  I thought it had what looked like the original case...  

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20 hours ago, HSB0531 said:

Yep, and for that money they should have first filled in the hole with a billet of mahogany, replaced the entire veneer top, and reshot it in Transparent Red.

what should the price be?

 

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I think whenever someone says “that price is outrageous” they should be required to offer something equally cool for a lower price 🤣🤘

It is helpful to see what people think things are worth though to be honest. 😇

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37 minutes ago, bry4321 said:

I think whenever someone says “that price is outrageous” they should be required to offer something equally cool for a lower price 🤣🤘

It is helpful to see what people think things are worth though to be honest. 😇

Tree Fitty works for me, that's the old HFC rule of thumb IIRC.  

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