bcsride Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 O.K. HFCers, These things are all the rage with "the young people" on the small club scene. I've seen them with country, rock, rap, you name it. http://www.egoriserstagelighting.com/#Whats I think they are ridiculous. I giggle when the players step up to rock, or otherwise entertain. So, thoughts? Get off of my lawn? Are they ever cool. Please discuss. Let's be honest, Joe Cocker would never have used one. RIP Joe.
velorush Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 From my days in theater, foot lighting is incredibly harsh - of course, if you've got the Cookie Monster on vocs, maybe that's what you're going for...
hamerhead Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I think Angus could use one, you know, to be the same size as normal people. And maybe BCRGreg.
DaveL Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 anything that improves the crappy stage lighting in most clubs is cool with me...
Steve Haynie Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Rick Nielsen has been using something like that for years.
crunchee Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 From my days in theater, foot lighting is incredibly harsh - of course, if you've got the Cookie Monster on vocs, maybe that's what you're going for... The flashlight under the chin trick works good too, especially on camping trips.
RichRS6 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Why do bands spend so much on backline and P.A. but nothing on lights ?Makes me loose interest really quickly watching bands without some kind of lighting, always looks like a rehearsal, not sure I'd want one of those though, I see lots of youtube fodder coming up.In the U.K. not many small places have much of a stage, never mind lights as well, in most places we play I'd probably smack my head on the roof if I tried standing on a box.Anyone else here handle lighting duties ?
Disturber Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Put some gun powder in there as well. Then when you step up, and lit up - BOOOM! You are really flying. That is what they woulda done in the 80's. Kids today, just don't know how to rock.
sixesandsevens Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 While kids today may or may not know how to rock, it seems like audiences today demand more of a spectacle. When I was younger, music videos were probably a 80/20 mix of concert videos vs. surreal dreamscapes written to film. It seems like these days the expectation is that the surreal dreamscapes arrive on stage as part of the show. To me this seems like a cool, low-cost, low-tech hack for would-be rockers to try to compete. I hope that MIDI sync'd LED color cycling is the next step after this, and would be a worthwhile open-source Arduino-scale project. You could put three on stage and set the middle one to be out of phase with the others for a mix of variety and sync.
tommy p Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Not to derail the thread or anything, but damn I love Kix!
Tres Aardvarks Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 The most ridiculous use of the light boxes has been filling an entire truck bed with one for a Luke Bryan video.
Steve Haynie Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Why do bands spend so much on backline and P.A. but nothing on lights ?It could have something to do with building up gear over time. My PA system started with monitors, and as more gear was added it was all being built up from the stage out. The most common gear could be borrowed or rented. Lights were a lower priority than a mixing console. There is no argument here over lights. Today the LED lights are easier to move around and operate. The need for a distro box might still be there, but not like in the old days when each light can was eating up power. What some people still need to get is that light has to come from all angles. Light trees on the side can leave a center stage position dark. Getting lights overhead from the front of the stage is important. Another thing that is irritating is seeing a drummer in the dark while the guys in the middle of the stage have light. Something that has crept into concert stages that make a big difference are backdrops on collapsible frames. Either the band members make their own frames or buy them from someone in the display sign business. A professionally created printout of a logo or backdrop can make band look more impressive.
velorush Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 While kids today may or may not know how to rock, it seems like audiences today demand more of a spectacle. Don't know if anyone saw Rush on the most recent "Clockwork Angels" tour (and "kids" may not really be their demographic), but it appears technology has met the demand. The light show alone bordered on sensory overload. It would have been entertaining as a solitary spectacle. The most ridiculous use of the light boxes has been filling an entire truck bed with one for a Luke Bryan video. Sir, I find redundancy in your statement (ridiculous, Luke Bryan).
i8guitar Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 When you are using in-ear monitoring and don't have traditional floor monitors, you gotta have something to prop your foot up on. This is just another way to get that effect. Plus it gives you a good launching pad in case you want to crowd surf. Or stand up a little taller to point out the idiots in the mosh pit to security. See, it's all very practical
RichRS6 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I think I used this joke before but it might help the singer to hit the high notes.I'll get my coat.........
bcsride Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 Yes, I guess they are fine. I suppose it isn't as ridiculous as wearing cat makeup, putting up an entire wall of empty marshall cabinets, play fuzzy guitars, or other wise just having a good time. I'm just old. Somehow, when Jagger wore football pants, it made perfect sense to me. Now, when folks stand on a lighted box to play a guitar solo, it seems silly. Now, the fan down in front to blow your hair back - that was silly too.
hamerhead Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 You might be on to something - load one with lights, speakers and a fan, and cover it with fuzz. Entire stage show in one small box.
dragan Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 This reminds me of the first band I played in. It was "managed " the drummers father . we were maybe 10- 12 years old and played in places like , in front of stores for grand openings on the sidewalk or at the union hall grade school dances on the floor. So the drummers father , our manager ,made a very large drum riser and I think as an after thought made two little risers , one for me and one for the bass player. He made us stand on them everytime we played , I hated it , I was embarased , even in the 60s . he also made our light system , a red , green and blue outdoor spotlight on a pole for each side ( I was kinda ok with that )
sixesandsevens Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 You might be on to something - load one with lights, speakers and a fan, and cover it with fuzz. Entire stage show in one small box. ... and slap a Vai logo on it and you've got carpeted gold right there.
Biz Prof Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 You might be on to something - load one with lights, speakers and a fan, and cover it with fuzz. Entire stage show in one small box.I think BFG might have done that already. ;-)
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