Biz Prof Posted March 24, 2021 Author Posted March 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, LucSulla said: hey wait a minute, are we on to a new Cale now? Not yet. I'd start a new thread for the world's fastest tomato head, Cale Yarborough, but he has nothing to do with music or guitars.
tomteriffic Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Biz Prof said: Damn, that's pretty good. Lol ETA: Might I respectfully ask your permission to use that line (my band covers "The Weight") at future gigs? But of course!
LucSulla Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Biz Prof said: Not yet. I'd start a new thread for the world's fastest tomato head, Cale Yarborough, but he has nothing to do with music or guitars. Finally, a Cale who actually rocks.
gtrdaddy Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Biz Prof said: Not yet. I'd start a new thread for the world's fastest tomato head, Cale Yarborough, but he has nothing to do with music or guitars. Sure he does. Gibson made a Cale Yarborough Les Paul.
Disturber Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 I always thought JJ Cale was like the epiphany of cool. His recordings sound so sparce and dry. That drum machine sound, just perfect for his music (Ace Tone Rythm Ace?), his sly guitar playing, and his almost whispery, slurry voice. It is perfection in like the most un-perfect way. Just cool and anti establishment. Love it. It's been years since I listened to him though. But I had that JJ Cale summer, back in the 90's, when I went through his catalogue over and over. I can hardly stand Clapton, 'bout for his early 70's stuff. And Dire Straits.... Don't even go there. Terrible work out music. Cale is where it's at. With a Marlboro and a rye, no ice.
gtrdaddy Posted March 24, 2021 Posted March 24, 2021 Sounds like Lay Down Sally. Would be a good mashup. Lay me down some Sally....she gonna blow me down the road.
tbonesullivan Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, gtrdaddy said: Sounds like Lay Down Sally. Would be a good mashup. Lay me down some Sally....she gonna blow me down the road. Which was on the same album with his cover of "Cocaine", right in the middle of that JJ Cale obsession. Honestly I find "Slowhand" to be a pretty meh album. It's good, but doesn't pack the same excitement as he had before. Heck I find a lot of Eric Clapton's solo work to be kinda meh. I'm a HUGE CREAM FAN, and I love Derek and the Dominoes. After that era I kinda lose interest. As for JJ Cale, his songs just don't seem to go anywhere. I guess that's alright?
0054 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 I think another Cale needs to end this. so here is the "gift"
gtrdaddy Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, tbonesullivan said: Which was on the same album with his cover of "Cocaine", right in the middle of that JJ Cale obsession. Honestly I find "Slowhand" to be a pretty meh album. It's good, but doesn't pack the same excitement as he had before. Heck I find a lot of Eric Clapton's solo work to be kinda meh. I'm a HUGE CREAM FAN, and I love Derek and the Dominoes. After that era I kinda lose interest. As for JJ Cale, his songs just don't seem to go anywhere. I guess that's alright? Backless, Money and Cigarettes, those were horrible IMO. Just terrible. One or two songs total from both those albums may be tolerable. Listening to the rest of that crap is like being forced to eat a bowl of lard. Slowhand was the last listenable album he did in the '70s for me. All of the '70s did NOT suck for Clapton IMO, if you haven't listened to his self titled album, 461 Ocean Blvd, and EC Was Here from that decade, you're doing yourself an injustice. Those albums freaking KILL. Thank me later. ETA I also like his mid-late '80s albums, as well as much of his back to his blues roots efforts afterwards. Some of his best work I think (as blues go.)
Disturber Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Gave JJ Cale's music some more thought and I'd say it has a lot more in common with more recent desert blues bands than both Dire Straits and Claopton. Artist like Tinariwen from North Africa plays a form of desert blues that makes me think of JJ. And Vieux Farka Touré. And perhaps Songhoy Blues
G Man Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 It was always the slow steady groove sans guitar wankery that did it for me in Cale's music.
gtrdaddy Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, G Man said: sans wankery Good God Man! What kind of a world do you live in?
Willie G. Moseley Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 IMO two words, "laid back", are the essence of J.J. Cale and the Tulsa sound. And a lot of times, anything with a lower decibel count that's less punchy isn't going to attract and hold the interest of many fans of guitar music...because it isn't loud. For Clapton, gravitating to that style was a respite from playing loud music with fast guitar lines. And from their outset, Dire Straits was more laid-back than Cream, but Knopler's innovative guitar lines (regardless of the volume) also figured into the mix. As for The Band, I think their presentations, to include the brilliant (and ultimately controversial) imagery in Robertson's songwriting as well as their unique instrumentation put them on a different planet compared to Cale. I'd opined in writing elsewhere that "the brown album" was perhaps the greatest album of American music ever made, and it was created by four Canadians and a hick drummer from Arkansas.
gtrdaddy Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Willie G. Moseley said: For Clapton, gravitating to that style was a respite from playing loud music with fast guitar lines. If he was bored after getting his ya yas out after playing rock, he should've taken an 8 year vacation rather than torcher his fans with the crap on Money & Cigarettes, and that steaming pile Backless. 2 hours ago, Willie G. Moseley said: And a lot of times, anything with a lower decibel count that's less punchy isn't going to attract and hold the interest of many fans of guitar music...because it isn't loud. Has nothing to do with it in the case of those two JJ Cale infected albums I mentioned. They were just plain shit. After careful consideration, I think I would rather eat a bowl of lard than listen to either of those albums again. I know many a guitar player who love to play loud and hard, listen loud and hard, but also freaking love singer/songwriter stuff, acoustic and laid back rock or country, from folks like John Prine (one of my all time favorite songwriters) Steve Goodman, Dylan, Guy Clark, John Hiatt, Kinky Friedman, Billy Joe Shaver, Flying Burrito Bros, Jackson Browne, Warren Zevon and many others. The reason it didn't resonate with so many Clapton fans is because it just plain sucked. Clapton should've taken a vacation or gone back to blues if he was bored with the rock he was making at the time.
gtrdaddy Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 As for the "genius" of JJ Cale, best I can figure is he hornswoggled someone into a multi-record deal based on two songs that were just OK. Pure genius.
django49 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 To quote Mark Twain (from a slightly different context)......."His music is much better than it sounds". 😏
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