PSA: Restored '81 4-digit Standard on ILM Fb

[Biz Prof]

Stumbled across this a few minutes ago on "Bookface" Marketplace. No affiliation.

Is the owner a member here?  And haven't I seen this Standard on the HFC in years past?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1593538087737610/?mibextid=dXMIcH

[cmatthes]

Yeah…left out quite a bit of info.  “Reworked” is more accurate than “Restored”.  Seller is trying to get back the money Music Zoo ripped him off for.

De-Kahlered, retopped (with 1/4” maple, not the veneer like the original), rebound, repaired the nut area, refinished, wrong sized logo transfer…

It looks nice, but shouldn’t be selling for anywhere near what an unmolested ‘70s Standard would sell for in the current market.

[Dave Scepter]

21 minutes ago, Joe mama said:

what should an unmolested 70s standard sell for?

Need photos but 10k-ish is the going rate lately 

[cmatthes]

They’re selling in the $7,500 and up tier now.  I’ve seen several priced at $12k get reduced to $10k and are still sitting nearly a year later.

[Ham Rex]

It's not bound and crowned either. So there is that to consider too.

[VECTOR]

Please show some pics for those without fb. Thanks

[stratacus]

20 hours ago, VECTOR said:

Please show some pics for those without fb. Thanks

Here is a link to the Reverb listing

[Dave Scepter]

15 minutes ago, stratacus said:

Here is a link to the the Reverb listing

Ummm, $17,900 +$350 on Reverb but $10,500 on FB Marketplace?.. Boy those Reverb fees are killer huh? 🤣

[The Shark]

3 hours ago, Dave Scepter said:

Ummm, $17,900 +$350 on Reverb but $10,500 on FB Marketplace?.. Boy those Reverb fees are killer huh? 🤣

Throwing out the treble-hook.  Never know what you'll catch.

[DaveL]

did not like this guitar at 5k back in the day...   think he would have been better off with RS, Murkat or a couple

guys in Pennsylvania who could have done the resto more vintage correct.   

[specialk]

I just checked the Reverb listing. $9,500 + $350s/h. 

Still too high

[kizanski]

I absolutely love everything about it, except the price of course.  

I'll take a reworked 4-digit any day.  I know the QC and the condition are going to be better than an original one, that's for sure.  And that top is exceptional. 

[dgstandard]

It is a fabulous guitar.  The guys at Hamer did great work.  I wish I never sold it.  

[Dave Scepter]

Yup, I'm liking it as well... BUT, not a fan of gluing a block of wood filling the Kahler hole... probably makes no difference but I hate visualizing the stoppage of the grain flow... I totally get why, but it still bugs me~😬

[kizanski]

49 minutes ago, Dave Scepter said:

Yup, I'm liking it as well... BUT, not a fan of gluing a block of wood filling the Kahler hole... probably makes no difference but I hate visualizing the stoppage of the grain flow... I totally get why, but it still bugs me~😬

But they retopped the guitar?

[Dave Scepter]

30 minutes ago, kizanski said:

But they retopped the guitar?

Yeah, I'm sure if nobody told me, I'd never know... I'm sure it plays/sounds great... kinda like sticking a 350 crate motor in a 67 GTO... Still runs great ... but

[The Shark]

I hope it sells for big money.  I have #0221 and it's on the launch pad, if I can get the big bucks.

[Ham Rex]

I've got #0166 and it's not going anywhere.

I love it. I still have the original Dimarzio's but I purchased opposite JB Zebras and made a cream dual coil and put a 59 in the neck. I used a Bonsai pot calcium eraser to remove the Seymour Duncan logo.

I know I paid a lot but i love the guitar.

[Ham Rex]

1 hour ago, The Shark said:

I hope it sells for big money.  I have #0221 and it's on the launch pad, if I can get the big bucks.

I hope you get what you ask for it!

Would you post a few pics or send to me?

Thanks,

Ham Rex

[gorch]

16 hours ago, stratacus said:

Here is a link to the the Reverb listing

Remembering the story from the final Hamer factory days, I think it is a very nice guitar. 

[kizanski]

14 hours ago, Dave Scepter said:

Yeah, I'm sure if nobody told me, I'd never know... I'm sure it plays/sounds great... kinda like sticking a 350 crate motor in a 67 GTO... Still runs great ... but

Would you have preferred they didn't plug the Kahler hole before retopping it?
I'm not following what you're saying.

[Biz Prof]

4 hours ago, kizanski said:

Would you have preferred they didn't plug the Kahler hole before retopping it?
I'm not following what you're saying.

I think he's merely saying his preference is for the Standard to have been unmolested (Tri Power 389 per the GTO specs) versus having a Kahler implanted and then replaced with spliced 'hog (crate 350 V-8). 

Alas, that ship sailed decades ago.  A good 'hog patch under a new maple top works just fine for these sorts of restorations.

[kizanski]

5 minutes ago, Biz Prof said:

I think he's merely saying his preference is for the Standard to have been unmolested (Tri Power 389 per the GTO specs) versus having a Kahler implanted and then replaced with spliced 'hog (crate 350 V-8). 

Alas, that ship sailed decades ago.  A good 'hog patch under a new maple top works just fine for these sorts of restorations.

Well, sure.  In this scenario we had a choice between a Kahlered Standard and a repaired/reworked Standard.
Short of a trip in your time machine, the "original" option was long, long gone.

The finished product, imo, is gorgeous.

[Biz Prof]

2 minutes ago, kizanski said:

Well, sure.  In this scenario we had a choice between a Kahlered Standard and a repaired/reworked Standard.
Short of a trip in your time machine, the "original" option was long, long gone.

The finished product, imo, is gorgeous.

Agree with you on all points.

 

[kizanski]

That said, the idea of a 350 Chevy engine in a GTO is enough to make me vomit.
I made many enemies at scores of car shows I attended over the years.