Bluesking Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Don't forget Reb's work with Dokken - Live From The Sun is one kick ass album.I'd also point some of Reb's naysayers to the recent live Whitesnake DVD - he absolutely kills it all night long.I've never understood the appeal of Kirk's lead playing - he may have taken lessons from Satriani, but it seems he must have skipped the days where he was learning to play lead.Honestly, every time I hear a Metallica solo, I think of some 8th grade kid in his bedroom who needs another 5 years to really develop.I saw Metallica on the Puppets tour and again for the Black album - Hammett was clearly the weakest link both times.
jisham Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I loved Hammet in that mel gibson movie, Apocalypto. Best post in this whole thread. I could really give a rat's ass one way or the other about either band or either player. Don't like 'em? Don't listen to 'em. Plain and simple.
Lockbody Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Luckiest guitar player?I thought that was Alex Lifeson.*ducks*
Hamer of the gods Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Metallica rules. Particularly pre-black album Metallica.That said, I would not miss Hammett if he were replaced. To me Metallica is all about the brutality and precision of James Hetfield's right hand. I think if KH's tone were not so thin and grating he would be more appealing to me.
specialk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I don't care for either Beach or Hammett, so it's a wash for me.I just can't say it enough, though, that Lars is the biggest douchebag in the music business!
Hamer of the gods Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I don't care for either Beach or Hammett, so it's a wash for me.I just can't say it enough, though, that Lars is the biggest douchebag in the music business!+1 I work with a popular local heavy band that has toured with them, they all agree that Lars is a TOTAL D'bag! (And that KH's tone sucks!)
Scottcrud Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 What is complete bullshit is Reb asking if Kirk plays in Megadeth or Metallica...Like I really believe he doesn't know. ( In Megadeth, every lead player they've ever had blows away Hammett and Reb Beach!!!!) Who gives a shit ya know? I know a ton of local guitar players that lead wise blow Hammett away.. Who cares?Here's another news flash, Lars Ulrich sucks as a drummer and as a person,Yet Metallica are richer than Reb Beach will ever be and have probably sold more records than all the bands he's been in combined. So again, at the end of the day, who gives a shit?Luckiest guitar player?I thought that was Alex Lifeson.*ducks*Oh yea, cause Alex Lifeson is a horrible player...Seriously? If you have any doubt of Lifeson's guitar prowess go back and listen to 2112 again.
Hamer of the gods Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Oh yea, cause Alex Lifeson is a horrible player...Seriously? If you have any doubt of Lifeson's guitar prowess go back and listen to 2112 again.+1 2112 made me beg my parents for a guitar!
Lockbody Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Oh yea, cause Alex Lifeson is a horrible player...Seriously? If you have any doubt of Lifeson's guitar prowess go back and listen to 2112 again.Actually, I love Rush and Alex, and at one time I probably could play about half of the catalogue. You should have heard me when Alex was on Trailer Park Boys (If you've never seen the episode, it's a must see, btw).There was a thread on here a while back about Alex being the "luckiest guitar player" out there, and it was just a swipe at that.
Scottcrud Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Love him on Trailer Park Boys...Have you seen Countdown to Liquor day? He's hysterical!
tommy p Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Kirk Hammett = RingoPlease don't insult Ringo that way.Actually, I agree with this assessment. I never liked Kirk's playing, but his personality probably has more to do with why he's in the band - just like Ringo. Lars and James fight all the time, Jason got so fed up he quit the most successful metal band in the world at the height of their popularity, but none of them seem to ever have a problem with Kirk, nor him with them. Imagine the band had Dave Mustaine stayed. I guarantee you Lars would not be there today.
svl Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Imagine the band had Dave Mustaine stayed. I guarantee you Lars would not be there today. You're absolutely right. He would be dead, with a Dean V shoved up his bum for good measure .
Lockbody Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Kirk Hammett = RingoPlease don't insult Ringo that way.Actually, I agree with this assessment. Oh, I don't. The Beatles went and asked Ringo to join the band because they thought he was the best. His parts are just what the songs need and nothing more. Much like Paul's bass lines, most would be hard-pressed to come up with better parts that fit the songs.
Dasein Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Kirk's o.k., but imagine if any of the lead guitarists from Megadeth had been in Metallica instead, namely Chris Poland or Marty Friedman. Epic.-Austinimho friedman is a genius , his playing on rust in peace is alltime great....................Yet his hair says Winger! Fucking hate the poodle fros.... at least Kirk lost his hair (before it magically came back).
Lockbody Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Love him on Trailer Park Boys...Have you seen Countdown to Liquor day? He's hysterical!No, but I just read up on it and I'll definitely have to check it out.
Dasein Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Just a general reply --- Winger so totally LACKED (and lack) any artistic or musical authenticity that I'd rather shove the rough end of a toilet brush up my rear end than be forced to listen to their back catalog. If you told me I could spend eternity listening to Winger while sitting on a beach drinking mai tais, or that I'd have to suffer daily beatings and assaults in a prison yard for eternity, but would still have nightly access to my music library alone in my bunk, I'd chose the latter.I don't care who's better --- I bet David Hasselhoff is a "better" singer that Anthony Kiedis, but if I ever see that SOB on stage with Flea and the boys I'm grabbing a bazooka! Reb already cut his bait --- he can bloody well go fish and keep his trap shut. It's over buddy - you failed to make a connection or be relevant. Get your real-estate license and move on.I want my music to have something real about it. If part of that real is Hammett's neurotic scared wank-fest solos, Lars' small man syndrome spazzy drumming and James' brutish crunching caveman sensitivity I'll take it --- cause it's bloody real. It might not even be my cup of tea but it's not Splenda.. You can keep your artificial sweetener to yourself baby. I like my sugar raw or spit from the cane.Now excuse me while I go book an appointment with my therapist because I'm suddenly disturbed by my own argument....
Scottcrud Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Just a general reply --- Winger so totally LACKED (and lack) any artistic or musical authenticity that I'd rather shove the rough end of a toilet brush up my rear end than be forced to listen to their back catalog. If you told me I could spend eternity listening to Winger while sitting on a beach drinking mai tais, or that I'd have to suffer daily beatings and assaults in a prison yard for eternity, but would still have nightly access to my music library alone in my bunk, I'd chose the latter.I don't care who's better --- I bet David Hasselhoff is a "better" singer that Anthony Kiedis, but if I ever see that SOB on stage with Flea and the boys I'm grabbing a bazooka! Reb already cut his bait --- he can bloody well go fish and keep his trap shut. It's over buddy - you failed to make a connection or be relevant. Get your real-estate license and move on.I want my music to have something real about it. If part of that real is Hammett's neurotic scared wank-fest solos, Lars' small man syndrome spazzy drumming and James' brutish crunching caveman sensitivity I'll take it --- cause it's bloody real. It might not even be my cup of tea but it's not Splenda.. You can keep your artificial sweetener to yourself baby. I like my sugar raw or spit from the cane.Now excuse me while I go book an appointment with my therapist because I'm suddenly disturbed by my own argument....This is the best post yet!!!
Ethan Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 I would hate to hear what you guys would say if you heard me play!
MCChris Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Winger so totally LACKED (and lack) any artistic or musical authenticityThe mere presence of Rod Morgenstein renders this statement false.
ecnal Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 I saw Reb most recently last year when Whitesnake opened for Judas Priest in San Antonio. He was really good and entertaining; I especially liked the guitar solo duel between him and Doug Aldrich (you can find it on youtube if you search). I've also seen Metallica in the 80's and recently, and love many of their songs and enjoy KH's playing too. I never cared for Winger, and sometimes KH's wah bothers me. So I'm calling it a draw.I do think anyone who says KH sucks must be in the top 1% of 1% of guitarists, or else just enjoys bashing Metallica. Which is fine.
zorrow Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 I never liked Kirk's playing that much, but he does a quite decent job in Metallica and he has also had some brilliant moments (his solos in "One" are great, indeed). Reb Beach is a monster player though, but I cannot care less about Winger. Anyway, I found all this bashing BS pretty lame and childish. Quite often it's not about who's the best player, but about who's the best fit for the band as a team member. Kirk seems to be the right guy for Metallica, no matter how great Friedman, Poland, Beach, Lynch or whoever-else-who-kicks-Kirk's-ass as a guitar player is.
KH Guitar Freak Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Kirk Hammett = RingoPlease don't insult Ringo that way.Actually, I agree with this assessment. I never liked Kirk's playing, but his personality probably has more to do with why he's in the band - just like Ringo. Lars and James fight all the time, Jason got so fed up he quit the most successful metal band in the world at the height of their popularity, but none of them seem to ever have a problem with Kirk, nor him with them. Imagine the band had Dave Mustaine stayed. I guarantee you Lars would not be there today.IMO, it wouldn't have worked for long anyway. Mustaine is primarily a rhythm player, and so is Hetfield, unless they didn't mind a three guitarist band of course...
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