cynic Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Well, whadya know....so does mine...I don't usually stare at them so close, nor do I make a habit of breakin things, so I have no idea how straight is too straight for a crack.
RichRS6 Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 If your going to pay $5000 for a guitar then it's a good idea to be suspicious as hell and look it over really closely.
serial Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 That seam is standard on old Standards.The price is pretty much in line, maybe slightly on the plus side for a 79. The peak production years were 80 and 81. Anything lower than 300 or so is a pretty good bet in my book.
cynic Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 If your going to pay $5000 for a guitar then it's a good idea to be suspicious as hell and look it over really closely. I'm local and have asked the seller (who is not the owner, btw, "selling for a friend") if the owner would be open to an in hand inspection. I'll be sure to make note of all the seams on mine first
BTMN Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 You guys missed the part about the neck repair and the photo of the neck body joint I'm guessing. Looks good but $5000 for a break repair there would not be me without the name and rep of the repair guy. Even then I might wanna see it in person. See if it has neck wobble. Being a nut for the number 28 that number set my G.A.S. off FIERCE!!!!! Bob is that you bidding?
Bobby Marshall Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I did notice the neck joint at the body looking off but all the other talk of headstock repair just seems like misunderstanding of how Hamer made the original headstock. And the listing says it is more costly to ship a "fixed" neck but I think that is either a Freudian slip or just calling the set neck a fixed neck (vs bolt on).
The Shark Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I've asked if he means repaired or a neck that's glued in as opposed to screwed to the body. God I hope he understands. I want this one, if it's straight-up other than the "weak" pickup.
BTMN Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I could be wrong and I hope that I have not scared any bidders but that area looks repaired in the close up views.
rj2858 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I'm not seeing anything that looks repaired, just what I'd guess is some lacquer shrinkage along the neck joint, if that's what you're talking about.
cynic Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Even then I might wanna see it in person. See if it has neck wobble. I heard back from the guy this evening that seeing it in person isn't going to happen. Sellers in San Diego are a skittish bunch for sure!
The Shark Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 He answered my question, "It is not a bolt on neck". That clears it up.
Hamer Dave Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 He answered my question, "It is not a bolt on neck". That clears it up.Lol! Is he not being a bit evasive? Good luck, hope it's straight.So.... is this an '80?Never got into the 'Explorer' body shape. But would be cool to have, I suppose.Then again... Much rather have a handful of Sunbursts, at that price?
Ting Ho Dung Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 He answered my question, "It is not a bolt on neck". That clears it up.Then again... Much rather have a handful of Sunbursts, at that price?I'd much rather have a handful of $5,000 right now. LOL Good luck Shark. I hope it comes to FL
cspot Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Not sure if its an issue, or if its been pointed out already, but is that a crack/repair in pic #7 (back of headstock) that runs from the first tuning peg screw through the 8 and 1 in the serial #?
whiskeyzulu Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Not sure if its an issue, or if its been pointed out already, but is that a crack/repair in pic #7 (back of headstock) that runs from the first tuning peg screw through the 8 and 1 in the serial #?Good eye - not sure that is a break or a headstock joint (are the hockey sticks headstocks from that era 1 piece?) In any event, Seller amended listing:It was brought to my attention that there is a repairedcrack on the headstock that runs parrellel to the tuners.I had not noticed it before listing, & it looks as if it was repaired by an expert, & no doubt the reason why I didn't see it.
cmatthes Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 Those aren't 1-piece headstocks.There is a strip of wood that runs parallel to the tuner line at the top edge of the headstock on Standards from that era. It's possible that instead of a crack that it's just lacquer sink...I'm not sure.
cspot Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 It looks like if may have been oversprayed to fix a break/crack running along the length of the tuner holes. It's not clear from the front but you can see the crack pretty well in this shot: eta: If you click the image and check it out full size, you can clearly see the crack continuing between the tuners for low E and A, and A and D. If you check the close up of the serial in the auction, the crack can be see between the remaining tuners. What you're hi-liting is not a crack, the headstock is built that way, you're seeing a seam. Both of my 4 digits were exactly the same. A little straight for a crack, dontcha think? Thats not the crack I meant, I was wondering about the one that runs from the first tuning peg screw through the 8 and 1 in the serial number. Is that not a small fracture, or am I on crack?? Use the zoom on the auction site.
cynic Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 If nothing else we've stirred up enough confusion about this thing to keep the price down
whiskeyzulu Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 It looks like if may have been oversprayed to fix a break/crack running along the length of the tuner holes. It's not clear from the front but you can see the crack pretty well in this shot: eta: If you click the image and check it out full size, you can clearly see the crack continuing between the tuners for low E and A, and A and D. If you check the close up of the serial in the auction, the crack can be see between the remaining tuners. What you're hi-liting is not a crack, the headstock is built that way, you're seeing a seam. Both of my 4 digits were exactly the same. A little straight for a crack, dontcha think? Thats not the crack I meant, I was wondering about the one that runs from the first tuning peg screw through the 8 and 1 in the serial number. Is that not a small fracture, or am I on crack?? Use the zoom on the auction site. Your right!
murkat Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 ^ A lil crack/ fracture is following the grain of the wood across the 1 (?).probably got wacked a few times in it 30 + years... (oh no, thats never happened...)just a stress crack....
tbonesullivan Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Is that thing going through the serial number a crack, or a glue joint? the serial number itself doesn't have any crack through it.
ScubaMarket Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 If your going to pay $5000 for a guitar then it's a good idea to be suspicious as hell and look it over really closely.Common sense would dictate that in my book too! The fact that he doesnt want to show it is all I needed to hear! Good luck with it!! I'll wait till the love comes down...LMAOMy 79' 0192 sure the hell didnt look like that
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