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PSA: 2005 Hamer USA Triple Threat at DGS


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FWIW, I (usually) think my TT is the best sounding Hamer I own. (Disclosure----I bought it here and it came to me with upgraded electronics, most notably pickups). Depending upon condition and the appearance of the top, that is not too far on the high side. IIRC, no 2 (of the 30 made) were identical.

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Odd as it may sound, the Triple Threat was what inspired me to get my Heritage H 110 custom.

Wow. Bet YOU were disappointed!

:D

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I do NOT NEED another Triple Threat! But that one sure does look appealing. If someone here has been looking for one..........

Pretty darn sure a handful more need to slip out the back door before anything else is invited inside......

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Looks great with the covered pickups!

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Wow... Might need a road trip

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Odd as it may sound, the Triple Threat was what inspired me to get my Heritage H 110 custom.

Wow. Bet YOU were disappointed!

:D

Nope. The only LP style guitar I've ever bonded with. I put a few 9 mm slugs through the ugly headstock and now she's fine like aged wine where the bitches dine.

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Ironically Jol talks about the T3 on Facebook today.

And implied the unique specs had no impact.
The one piece neck and different angle headstock seemed to go against the features on most models that Hamer made a big deal about. I'm surprised they got made.
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^^^^

Making a limited edition with "Les Paul features" is one way to create some buzz. Not the least being able to make a better quality instrument than the typical for Gibson at that time. The double cut style (typical Hamer) keeps it from being an LP clone (arguably the Monaco Elite is an equal or better "clone") but it is a great instrument, IMHO.

I personally think the ltd editions (the TT, the 25th and 30th Anniversaries, the two different Earthen maples, the "Filtertrons" and the Redwood Studio-----arguably also the Talladega Pros----I may be overlooking something) are some of the best Hamers ever made.......Hence my quest to acquire one (or more) of each. I do not regret any of the acquisitions.

Whether they SHOULD have been made is a matter of opinion. I DO know that the number of inquiries I get to sell one or more of my small " Hamer harem" convinces me that there was method to the marketing strategy......Only one of those listed (all of which I still own, except the pair of Tally Pros) is likely to be on my "outplacement" list.....And then only because I found something similar (and even better) from another maker. And, I dare say, all are worth more than I paid for them......My impression is that their desirability is increasing. If that one sold that quickly for (or near) the asking price, that surely reinforces that opinion......There are a limited number, and if someone wants one badly enough, they may not have a whole lotta bargaining power.......If one DOES pop up, either bite the bullet or settle in for a long wait.

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Maybe I didn't quite phrase it right. I didn't mean to say they shouldn't have been made. They are awesome looking guitars for sure and I bet they sound great.

What I was trying to get at is the one piece neck contradicts all the ad copy and explanations why the three piece stressed neck was the best system.

I guess Hamer was pretty inconsistent with what they would and wouldn't do , so maybe I shouldn't be surprised by anything. :)

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More than one thing Hamer did (let alone some decisions by one person) left some folks scratching their heads. But ultimately there were marketing decisions made. In this particular case, there was enough interest that they made 10 TTs for each of three different Hamer dealers.

It was (and is) not unusual to hear some say, "I love my Hamers, but only a Les Paul is a Les Paul". The TT (and some later efforts) were arguably an attempt to cash in on such feelings. For that matter, PRS has had great results in recent years by making Private Stock (and lower cost) guitars ever closer to the "Burst" formula. (In the very near future, I hope to present an NGD announcement to illustrate that point VERY clearly! Hint, hint!)

Similar sort of marketing to the "Wood Library" guitars that are made in limited numbers by PRS specifically for individual dealers. Of course they may do a similar short run for other dealers, just with enough differences that they are "unique" (and a cut or three above the "core" line).

And with the other limited editions, there were marketing efforts to stress the "uniqueness" of each with a "buy one before they are gone" pitch.......How one separates their customers from their money. Willingly.

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I am not on Facebook so I can't see what Jol wrote but I would be interested if anyone could give me the Cliff Notes version....

No head scratching required on the TT? Several years earlier, Frank Rindone wanted Hamer to build their version of the 1959 Les Paul Historic. He acquired a very good example of a 59 reissue and sent it to New Hartford. We autopsied the Gibson and copied the body exactly. We even copied a few things unintentionally. I remember running into some trouble routing the jack because of the limitations of the length of the cutter I was using. I showed Jol the bottom of the rout and some of the wood remained on about half of the circle. It was enough to get the wire through but we had a culture of sweating the small stuff so I wanted to order a longer cutter to get everything just right. We went back to his office to get out the cutter catalog. We also took a look at the Gibson we were copying. It had the exact same wood remaining in the exact same spot. Jol smiled and told me to leave it like it was. I don't think he or Frank U fully supported the idea of a direct copy.

When the guitar was finished, everyone gathered for the sound test. It looked good, sounded good. But in a direct A/B comparison it did not sound like the 59 reissue we copied. We talked about the construction differences, the one piece neck, the headstock angle, etc. Fast forward a few years later (I left Hamer by then) and Jol went 180 degrees on the project. Instead of making it look like a Les Paul and constructing like a Hamer, he made it look like a Hamer but constructed it like a. Les Paul.

Damn fine guitars and everyone should be very proud of them. I always thought those odd, outside of the box models were what made Hamer such an interesting company.

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Thanks for the great information...and the pic !!

Indeed...she sure is pretty !!!

Vic

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A Triple Threat is on my short list, but is also a 'sleep on it' buy (which typically gets ignored). That one was gorgeous, but wasn't meant to be this time. Dammit. Absolutely stunning.

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