thoro Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 10 hours ago, veatch said: Hah. Good point. If it works, why not do the fretboard that way, too? And the frets. And the strings. And my shorts. Definitely too much friction there... Haha... I think Dean Zelinsky is trying to create unique selling propositions. I somehow like his innovations, grandma's neck pattern, the strange toggle switch/pot, the SideKick pickups. And I like flat guitars, I've got an Ibanez SV5470F that feels very comfortable. But I think an unfinished/oiled neck will always be my favourite. I built a guitar with a fat mahogany neck and just sealed it with a thin layer of Tru Oil – it feels and plays just perfect. Love the necks of my Peavey Wolfgangs, too.
hirah Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 20 hours ago, scottcald said: So you tried this one? https://deanzelinsky.com/guitars/lavoce Yes. didn't plug it in though. I was interested in how the neck felt. didn't like it all all. but the switch on the pot is cool as hell.
hirah Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 this is the one I tried. https://martelmusicstore.com/collections/used-electric-guitars/products/useddeanzelinskylavocez-glidecustomtabacoosunburst
BubbaVO Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Still, despite the goofy neck, the guitars look nice enough, and the tone options abound. Does anyone know if these guitars are gig worthy?
Sugartune Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Their Imperials have intrigued me. Something about a flatter body, but much larger surface. There's a USA made one on Reverb now for $2300. The headstock is horrendous though. https://reverb.com/item/2018048-2009-dbz-usa-custom-shop-imperial-jr-royale
scottcald Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 The Dean history is confusing. There's Dean now owned by , then there's DBZ (now Diamond) and now Dean has Dean Zelinsky Private Label. I emailed them to ask about the guitars. This is part of the response: Dean makes most of these models including the LaVoce in a small factory in India, with the exception of the StrettaVita Hollow Body, Tagliare "The Private Label," Dellatera Engraved Paisley, and Johnny Winter Signature. He set up the factory to build guitars "old school" like he did in the late '70s and '80s. Hopefully that helps anyone looking to buy them.
kizanski Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, scottcald said: The Dean history is confusing. There's Dean now owned by , then there's DBZ (now Diamond) and now Dean has Dean Zelinsky Private Label. Maybe one day he'll spawn another brand which makes good guitars.
cmatthes Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, scottcald said: The Dean history is confusing. There's Dean now owned by , then there's DBZ (now Diamond) and now Dean has Dean Zelinsky Private Label. I emailed them to ask about the guitars. This is part of the response: Dean makes most of these models including the LaVoce in a small factory in India, with the exception of the StrettaVita Hollow Body, Tagliare "The Private Label," Dellatera Engraved Paisley, and Johnny Winter Signature. He set up the factory to build guitars "old school" like he did in the late '70s and '80s. Hopefully that helps anyone looking to buy them. I'm totally clear on all that now. Wait...WHUT?
scottcald Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, cmatthes said: I'm totally clear on all that now. Wait...WHUT? I asked about the India thing thinking it was supposed to be Indonesia. But, no, he said it was India.
zorrow Posted March 13, 2018 Author Posted March 13, 2018 Well, for me it was always clear those were imports (at least the vast majority of them). However, never thought they were made in India. And yes, the aesthetics of those headstocks remain very questionable, in spite of the (still) intriguing (to me) Z-glide neck —I would really like to try it.
gtone Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Most people say I'm full of shit, so my opinion on the matter doesn't amount to squat. How's that for honesty, I ask?...
Biz Prof Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 59 minutes ago, scottcald said: I asked about the India thing thinking it was supposed to be Indonesia. But, no, he said it was India.
FGJ Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 How on earth could anyone get spooge on a guitar neck? Are you taking the thing to bed?
Steve Haynie Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, gtrdaddy said: But it won't clean the spooge that gets built up in the cracks of that carved up neck. That IS the mojo. 15 minutes ago, FGJ said: How on earth could anyone get spooge on a guitar neck? Are you taking the thing to bed? I remember playing with some guys that told me what a certain stain on a cymbal was and to avoid touching it. Either a chick digged drummers, or a drummer really loved his cymbals.
BubbaVO Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Steve Haynie said: That IS the mojo. I remember playing with some guys that told me what a certain stain on a cymbal was and to avoid touching it. Either a chick digged drummers, or a drummer really loved his cymbals. Gah! Reminds of this NSFW scene:
MCChris Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 12:06 PM, scottcald said: The Dean history is confusing. There's Dean now owned by , then there's DBZ (now Diamond) and now Dean has Dean Zelinsky Private Label. I emailed them to ask about the guitars. This is part of the response: Dean makes most of these models including the LaVoce in a small factory in India, with the exception of the StrettaVita Hollow Body, Tagliare "The Private Label," Dellatera Engraved Paisley, and Johnny Winter Signature. He set up the factory to build guitars "old school" like he did in the late '70s and '80s. Hopefully that helps anyone looking to buy them. Anyone who is drawn in by the words "Private Label" automatically qualifies for the Open Field Contingency™. Contact myself or @kizanski to arrange a time and place to carry out your OFC.
cynic Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, MCChris said: Anyone who is drawn in by the words "Private Label" automatically qualifies for the Open Field Contingency™. Right?! How dare they attempt to cash in on the legitimacy of Private "Stock".
bkrownd Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 7:10 AM, kizanski said: Maybe one day he'll spawn another brand which makes good guitars. He's an odd cookie but one thing that can be said is he gets people to start guitar companies, which adds fun choices to the market. The Diamond I have wouldn't exist without Dean Z hitting up Diamond/Diamant to start another guitar company for him.
kizanski Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, bkrownd said: He's an odd cookie but one thing that can be said is he gets people to start guitar companies, which adds fun choices to the market. The Diamond I have wouldn't exist without Dean Z hitting up Diamond/Diamant to start another guitar company for him. Just what the world needs: another snake oil salesman.
BubbaVO Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, kizanski said: Just what the world needs: another snake oil salesman. Funny how the music industry attracts more than its fair share.
kizanski Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 1:06 PM, scottcald said: The Dean history is confusing. There's Dean now owned by , then there's DBZ (now Diamond) and now Dean has Dean Zelinsky Private Label. I emailed them to ask about the guitars. This is part of the response: Dean makes most of these models including the LaVoce in a small factory in India, with the exception of the StrettaVita Hollow Body, Tagliare "The Private Label," Dellatera Engraved Paisley, and Johnny Winter Signature. He set up the factory to build guitars "old school" like he did in the late '70s and '80s. Re: Signature Series, Private Label, Private Stock, et al... This is actually a thing.
Steve Haynie Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, kizanski said: Re: Signature Series, Private Label, Private Stock, et al... This is actually a thing. Being an amateur at wiping all my life, I never dreamed of making money at it. While on the topic of Angel Soft products, they also have this: Which brings up Yakov Smirnoff's joke about whether you are supposed to smell the scented toilet paper before or after you use it.
kizanski Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steve Haynie said: Which brings up Yakov Smirnoff's joke ... No such thing.
scottcald Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, kizanski said: No such thing. What a country!
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