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burningyen

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I wasn't sure where to post this. It's not exactly a bench report (more of a kitchen floor report), and as you'll soon see I'm nowhere near an expert. This is the 1st time I've ever attempted anything this drastic with a guitar. Hopefully this will help people learn from my mistakes and/or inspire some ideas, just like Chris' Stiked Daytona inspired this project. I started with this MIM Classic Series '60s Strat:

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Although it sounded and played great as it was stock, I bought it for this project and dammit, I had my mind made up. So I dismantled it, parted out the electronics and plastic, and slowly gathered up the necessary parts. Once I had the pickguard and pickups in my hands, I could finally begin the crazy part. With a hammer, a 3/8" chisel, an X-Acto knife and some sandpaper, I made room for some Filtertrons. I tried to go slow with the chisel and shave off 1/32"-1/16" of wood at a time, but I got a bit too eager at times and you can see it in the results. I used the X-Acto knife to cut the outlines of the routes in the finish so that the finish wouldn't chip off at the edges. To smooth out the sides I used sandpaper wrapped around the back of the chisel for the flat surfaces and wrapped around the X-Acto knife handle for the corners. I tried to remove as little wood as possible and not make too much of a mess of things, but eh. It won't win any awards, but it's done:

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You know the "measure twice, cut once" maxim? This was more like "measure once, cut once, then repeat 5 times". I had to keep adjusting the size of the routes to account for the little skirts that stick out at the bottom of the Classic pickup covers and to make sure that the pickups lined up comfortably with the pickguard without having to physically mash everything into place.

Now that the routing is done, here's what I have to work with:

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Classic+/Classic pickups and 500k CTS split-shaft pots from TV Jones, 22awg stranded hookup wire and .022uF poly film cap from my local Radio Shack, Fender switch from my local Sam Ash, chrome import Electromatic Gretsch knobs off of eBay, and mint green pickguard from Terrapin. Check out the difference in mint greens between the Terrapin guard and the original Fender guard:

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Terrapin's mint green has a slight glow-in-the-dark greenish white hue to it. It looks good with the LPB body, but it would probably annoy the mint green connoisseurs out there.

Now I just need to drill the pickup mounting holes and put everything together. I'll post an update when it's finished. At the rate this is going it will probably be another couple of months. When it's all done it should look something like this:

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That actually seems to be a very neat chisel job! That looks like a fun project, and a cool guitar. Keep us updated.

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And it's done:

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This was a lot of fun, and I learned a ton. This Fender diagram was my reference guide, and

really saved my ass. I took some basic circuits classes in college and could wire up a breadboard just fine, but without those videos I never would have known little tricks like sanding the back of the volume pot and heating and tinning the connection points before soldering them together.

The tone is very cool. Not surprisingly it's warmer and beefier now. It sounds like what I've always wanted a HB Strat to sound like. With the few HB Strats I've tried in the past it always felt like the wood and the pickups weren't gelling with each other. I haven't had a chance to set the polepiece heights yet. Right now the neck pickup overwhelms the bridge. I'll be sure to post clips once I've finished the set-up.

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Hmmm. You're giving me ideas for my Charvel HRF, a single pickup & devil bar job.

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You know I like it!

Very cool stuff.

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That looks great!

How did you decide where along the scale to position the pickups? That seems like a key decision.

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Chris, thanks for the inspiration!

Jaberwock, I only had time to give it a couple of strums to make sure the solder connections were good. The neck pickup was overwhelming the bridge pickup, and the polepieces were generally too close to the strings. The tone was pretty HB-ish, or maybe minibuckerish, not very twangy, but I'll reevaluate once I get a chance to do a proper setup and lower the polepieces. And I plan to post some sound clips to compare against the ones I posted pre-mod.

velorush, I'd like to say that I gave it a lot of thought, but really it was John at Terrapin Guitars who set the pickup positions in the pickguard. Just eyeballing it, it looks like he chose the positions used in the La Cabronita. I have no complaints. The neck-side neck pickup polepieces and the bridge-side bridge pickup high E string polepiece line up where they would with single-coil pickups.

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Awesome job BY! I forgot what you said the color was... agave blue? I like to set my neck humbucker pickups low in the pickguard anyway. EVH liked his bridge pickup moved a bit forward from the bridge, he liked the way that it tamed the harshness of the normal bridge position and that it gave it more beef.

Looking forward to hearing it if at all possible. :lol:

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I'm thinking a pair TV jones Classic plus's on this could sound good; it has a Harmonic Design Tele vintage plus in the bridge position that I've never really bonded with.

Jaberwock

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Awesome job BY! I forgot what you said the color was... agave blue?

It's Lake Placid Blue. I know my photos don't quite capture it.

Here's a clip to compare against the original one: noodling clip.

And just having a little fun: Back In Black. Sorry I don't know the whole song. :lol:

Raising the action of the whammy to the height I wanted did the trick as far as bringing out the chime in the pickups (I like to be able to pull up a whole step on the G string and a half step on the B string). I think you can hear the chime in the 1st clip. But the pickups are still hotter than the Duncan Alnico II Pros that were in there, and you can hear how the low E string makes the RP155 patch fart out. It's a BFDR amp sim paired with a Tweed Deluxe cab sim. I probably should have turned down the gain for that patch, but I wanted to do as direct a comparison as possible.

I need to put some Nut Sauce in the nut slots, and then hopefully I'm done!

I'm thinking a pair TV jones Classic plus's on this could sound good; it has a Harmonic Design Tele vintage plus in the bridge position that I've never really bonded with.

Go for it! But don't expect the fundamental character of the guitar to change. One thing I've learned from this experiment is that the wood really does have it's own voice. You can mold it just like you can mold a vocal recording in a studio, but the singer is still identifiably her.

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That came out nice, Ben. If it were a hardtail, I'd be in love.

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Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention: I used the import knobs because they were like half the price of the USA knobs. They fit (loosely) on USA split-shaft pots. TV Jones recommends putting a piece of plastic between the tines of the split shaft so that it doesn't collapse from the knob's set screw pressure. I couldn't find a suitable piece of plastic, so I cut a strip off of one of my business cards, folded it until it was too wide for the space between the tines, squeezed it with a pair of pliers until it could just fit, and wedged it in.

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Awesome job BY! I forgot what you said the color was... agave blue?

It's Lake Placid Blue. I know my photos don't quite capture it.

Here's a clip to compare against the original one: noodling clip.

And just having a little fun: Back In Black. Sorry I don't know the whole song. :lol:

Raising the action of the whammy to the height I wanted did the trick as far as bringing out the chime in the pickups (I like to be able to pull up a whole step on the G string and a half step on the B string). I think you can hear the chime in the 1st clip. But the pickups are still hotter than the Duncan Alnico II Pros that were in there, and you can hear how the low E string makes the RP155 patch fart out. It's a BFDR amp sim paired with a Tweed Deluxe cab sim. I probably should have turned down the gain for that patch, but I wanted to do as direct a comparison as possible.

I need to put some Nut Sauce in the nut slots, and then hopefully I'm done!

I should have recognized the Lake Placid Blue.

DAMN DAMN DAMN! The tone and playing is top notch BY! I absolutely loved the noodling and was almost fooled into believing that you were actually Angus.

I'd say that this experiment was a total success!

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Love that tone.....Let us know if you "go into production".

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I should have recognized the Lake Placid Blue.

DAMN DAMN DAMN! The tone and playing is top notch BY! I absolutely loved the noodling and was almost fooled into believing that you were actually Angus.

I'd say that this experiment was a total success!

Thanks, I'm very happy with it!
Love that tone.....Let us know if you "go into production".
It just so happens I have something in the works, but with a design that straddles Klein and Fender territory. I'm lining up folks to handle the production side and will announce when it's ready, maybe a year from now. This Strat project lit something inside me. It may all go down in flames, but at least I'll have some fun along the way!

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